7 Month Upgrade on CRJ900 At Mesaba

[SEVEN]

Is there no seat lock for F/O's?? Do we know if this guy was a furlough or a requal??

There is no seatlock for upgrade. Only for a lateral move. i.e. you move from FO on the Saab to FO on the Jet.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

This is just sad and funny at the same time-much like getting titty f-ed by a clown!

OMG! Did that happen to you? I know of a support group you may wanna look into...it's the "ACPWLTKBTFBC"...Adult Children of Parents Who Let Their Kids Be Titty F-ed By a Clown"...

 

[Limeyflyer]

Thanks seven , wasn't sure about that.

 

[CptMurf]

There is no seatlock for upgrade. Only for a lateral move. i.e. you move from FO on the Saab to FO on the Jet.

Not quite...Here it is from the contract....

Section 24.C.4.b. is modified to read as follows until December 1,
2010:
b. A pilot who successfully completes training for any
Captain position shall be required to remain in that
Captain category for twenty-four (24) months, except:
(1) A Captain who successfully completes training for
an equal or lower paying category shall be
required to remain in that equal or lower paying
category for twenty-four (24) months, and
(2) A pilot subject to a Captain freeze will be released
from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain
off the street.
Section 24.C.4.b. is modified to read as follows commencing on
December 1, 2010:
b. A pilot who successfully completes training for any
Captain position shall be required to remain in that
Captain category for twelve (12) months, except:
(1) A Captain who successfully completes training for
an equal or lower paying category shall be
required to remain in that equal or lower paying
category for twenty-four (24) months, and
(2) A pilot subject to a Captain freeze will be released
from such freeze to prevent the hiring of a Captain​

off the street.

They are even treating the requals to Saab CA as a long-term training and subject to freeze. The top half of the company is subject to some type of freeze SFCA-CRJ2/9 CA, SFCA Requal, SFCA upgrade. The newhires however, are not subject to freeze unless lateral move.

 

[realmanofgenius]

i've sent my stuff in. wanting to get into 121. are you guys getting 20 more 900s next year. i'd like the fasttrack to an upgrade. have kids

 

[Raskal]

i've sent my stuff in. wanting to get into 121. are you guys getting 20 more 900s next year. i'd like the fasttrack to an upgrade. have kids

Are those the kids in your picture? :beer:

Just for general info, on the latest vacancy revision the said junior upgrade is now listed as an alternate...being new still I'm not sure what exactly that entails, but I'm assuming some sort of delay.

 

[realmanofgenius]

I wish.... thanks for the info.

 

[Propsync]

i've sent my stuff in. wanting to get into 121. are you guys getting 20 more 900s next year. i'd like the fasttrack to an upgrade. have kids

They have 80 planes, they are getting 20 more. How long do you think it will take you to upgrade?

 

[realmanofgenius]

when i noticed 7 months, that was doable for me. i'm flying corporate now , in a jet, so ihave plenty of time and experience.

if I don't go now, it'll never happen with the door open at places like SWA etc.

under a year is good for me.

 

[Waylon]

If you want to take the chance now is the time to get hired. With the flow threw starting and lot's of current new hires not even close to having the time to upgrade the window is wide open. The only warning I would have is your schedule and QOL will really not be pretty. It sounds like you are a pretty good guy from the looks of your posts and I think you would fit in well here at XJ and a quick upgrade would not be an issue.

 

[Propsync]

I don't know if I'm making my point clear for you, RMOG. At this point, if you were hired tomorrow, you would probably not upgrade in a year unless most FO's didn't have the time. You would be roughly halfway up on the FO side. There would be at least 200 to upgrade ahead of you once deliveries stopped. Like I said before, don't ever look at what someone is saying upgrade time is. With the exception of street captains, upgrade time reported on this website is almost always wrong. Like I had said in a previous post, the post should have been 'Someone who was at Mesaba 7 months just upgraded'. And if you did upgrade, you would end up junior forever as FO's ahead of you on the list upgraded. I'm not saying don't do it, just the 7 mo. thing might not happen to you.

 

[XJohXJ]

Street Captains do NOT jump the line for upgrade over any other pilots. The only reason Mesaba will hire a street captain is if there are NO eligible FO's bidding for the particular CA slot.

Therefore, if Mesaba is hiring Street CA's into the Saab (DTW + MEM), that means that those same CA slots are also open for immediate upgrade for any (ATP mins) FO on our seniority list.

So, it is true to state that upgrade time for Saab Captains is currently 0 months.

Good luck with your choice.

 

[SplitBar]

Street Captains do NOT jump the line for upgrade over any other pilots. The only reason Mesaba will hire a street captain is if there are NO eligible FO's bidding for the particular CA slot.

Therefore, if Mesaba is hiring Street CA's into the Saab (DTW + MEM), that means that those same CA slots are also open for immediate upgrade for any (ATP mins) FO on our seniority list.

There still needs to be a vacancy so an immediate upgrad is not guaranteed when the growth stops in order for any FO to upgrade.

 

[XJohXJ]

Good point. There must be a vacancy to get the upgrade. However, we've been pretty steady at vacancies every two weeks or so.

Certainly nothing is guaranteed in this business.