ExpressJet cancels Upgrade classes....

[flyboy06]

2008 FEB/MAR upgrade classes have been cancelled "Due to a change in the level of operations for 2008, and the resulting changes to staffing requirements"

Discuss...

 

[ApocketA's_145]

2008 FEB/MAR upgrade classes have been cancelled "Due to a change in the level of operations for 2008, and the resulting changes to staffing requirements"

Discuss...

look at it this way... atleast ur stuck as a senior FO at expressjet with 18-19 days off rather than 10 at mesa... i guess....

 

[Superpilot92]

2008 FEB/MAR upgrade classes have been cancelled "Due to a change in the level of operations for 2008, and the resulting changes to staffing requirements"

Discuss...

Though not good, it was 1 class of 32 people. This has everything to do with CAL cutting back hiring and expansion plans, some to do with age 65 not a problem with XJT. Cal has been hiring alot of XJT guys well they are reducing their class size which equates into less people going to CAL from XJT. XJT plans their attrition mainly on people leaving for CAL.

 

[flyboy06]

Though not good, it was 1 class of 32 people. This has everything to do with CAL cutting back hiring and expansion plans, some to do with age 65 not a problem with XJT. Cal has been hiring alot of XJT guys well they are reducing their class size which equates into less people going to CAL from XJT. XJT plans their attrition mainly on people leaving for CAL.

Chris, It was 2 classes of 16 I think

Are you saying that we couldn't use 32 more CA in the COEX side? They reassign and JM more than they have in the past. Sucks to see your pairing cycle through 5 CA before someone gets there because they either time out or are reassigned again...just seems to be happening more than usual.

And they should factor in guys like you going to NWA

Congrats

 

[Superpilot92]

Chris, It was 2 classes of 16 I think

Are you saying that we couldn't use 32 more CA in the COEX side? They reassign and JM more than they have in the past. Sucks to see your pairing cycle through 5 CA before someone gets there because they either time out or are reassigned again...just seems to be happening more than usual.

And they should factor in guys like you going to NWA

Congrats

I agree. however from what i understand the company plans attrition primarily on CALs hiring of our guys. Well they have a rude awaking coming if they dont start factoring in the people leaving for other companies. Lots of XJT people getting called my NWA, UAL, and DAL right now not to mention the people in the SWA pool already or other carriers hiring. Shoudl be fun to watch. Wait till next summer and mark my words they will be short staffed. Thanks for the congrats. Count me in as a bump for you

 

[RiddleEagle18]

how long is your contract with Delta? Comair's president stated that delta is removing 4000 regional block hours from the system?

Canceling of vacancy bids is something the comair guys know all too much about.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Oh my god!!!! Quick, everyone leave before this place goes under!!! I hear the biggest threat is to those hired before the end of 04.

 

[MALSR]

maybe this coincides with the fact that the branded flying is loosing 10s of millions of dollars/quarter

 

[Superpilot92]

maybe this coincides with the fact that the branded flying is loosing 10s of millions of dollars/quarter

I would be willing to bet you cant come up with any documentation on this, can you? branded did take money to start but its not doing bad at all.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

maybe this coincides with the fact that the branded flying is loosing 10s of millions of dollars/quarter

Statistics show that 72% of statistics were pulled out of someone's ass.

 

[MALSR]

maybe this coincides with the fact that the branded flying is loosing 10s of millions of dollars/quarter

The numbers will be out in a matter of days. Then you will see for yourself and you will not have to take my word for it.

 

[molson247]

I would be willing to bet you cant come up with any documentation on this, can you? branded did take money to start but its not doing bad at all.

uhhh....WHAT? Just go look at the second and third quarter earnings. XJT is guaranteed money from DAL and CAL....where else do you think the loss came from? Branded took money to start in Q2, they were done painting aircraft and all were in service for Q3

 

[Speedtape]

4000 hours divided by 80 hour line equals 50 lines.

Spread over 9 carriers, that would not be much. Even if only one DCI carrier suffered, unlikely, it's only 50 captain and 50 f/o lines.

There is always a seasonal reduction at the first of New Year. By April, there will be more flying. By next summer, all hell will break loose!

In past downturns, at DCI, flying increased at ASA and Comair because there were mainline cut backs with less demand.

Comair Pilots, the Sky is not falling! Think long term! Delta is simply turning back in some high rent airplanes. Don't be surprised if the lessors don't cut a deal for lower lease payments and the airplanes remain. This could be a poker game!

With all the bad news, look for Delta to seek scope relief! General, it's coming!

Bah, Bye!!!!

 

[justenjoyflyin]

Business Genius on this forum.

The numbers will be out in a matter of days. Then you will see for yourself and you will not have to take my word for it.

Wow does anybody know what it takes to start a new division at all, didn't think so. Of course its going to loose money the first year there is no way it could make money in the airline industry with the fuel cost at where they are. The company could have shown a profit from branded if they wanted to, its called taking out short or long term debt. Instead the company decided to eat the cost up front and pay for all the start up cost with cash. Even after all the start up cost I think the company has a little over 200 million on hand which I know is nothing in the airline industry. The company is hoping that branded will break even in 2008 and show a profit in 2009. Most companies that are start-ups or start a new division set profits over a three year span, meaning hoping to make a profit during the third year of operation. But I am sure you know all this because everyone is a genius on this board. Maybe I learned something with that M.B.A. Not saying its going to work with branded, of course I hope it does. The company has reported a sixty-some percent load factor for the past month and that was after they raised ticket prices to offset the cost of fuel. Branded started in April so for anyone to think they would turn a profit in the first year or even two needs to head back or read about some business fundamentals.

 

[ApocketA's_145]

Wow does anybody know what it takes to start a new division at all, didn't think so. Of course its going to loose money the first year there is no way it could make money in the airline industry with the fuel cost at where they are. The company could have shown a profit from branded if they wanted to, its called taking out short or long term debt. Instead the company decided to eat the cost up front and pay for all the start up cost with cash. Even after all the start up cost I think the company has a little over 200 million on hand which I know is nothing in the airline industry. The company is hoping that branded will break even in 2008 and show a profit in 2009. Most companies that are start-ups or start a new division set profits over a three year span, meaning hoping to make a profit during the third year of operation. But I am sure you know all this because everyone is a genius on this board. Maybe I learned something with that M.B.A. Not saying its going to work with branded, of course I hope it does. The company has reported a sixty-some percent load factor for the past month and that was after they raised ticket prices to offset the cost of fuel. Branded started in April so for anyone to think they would turn a profit in the first year or even two needs to head back or read about some business fundamentals.

WELL SAID!! they planned on seeing a loss for the first 2 years and it is getting better. they might see a small profit before they planned.