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p3hawk

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Heard a good one the other day, sounds feasible though.

Bill Boisture to take over reins at FLOPS, Mike Schwinga to get sacked.
 
Sounds funny....

Bill Boisture joins Carlyle as senior advisor
05/06/2006. Source: AltAssets.
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W W Boisture, Jr, a former president of NetJets, has joined US private equity giant The Carlyle Group as a senior advisor to the aerospace and defence team. Boisture will help identify attractive investments in the aerospace, defence and business services sectors. He will also provide management, industry and marketing guidance to existing portfolio companies.
Prior to joining NetJets, Boisture served from 1994 to 2003 at General Dynamics Corporation in several senior capacities.

From 1991 to 1993 Boisture was president of British Aerospace Corporate Jets, and from 1989 to 1991 he was chairman and chief executive officer of Butler Aviation, predecessor company to Signature Flight Services. He also served in senior capacities at Skyworld/Ports of Call Airlines, Simuflite Training International and Candair (predecessor company to Bombardier Aerospace).

Boisture was a fighter pilot in the US Air Force and was honourably discharged as a major after 11 years of service.

Peter J Clare, Carlyle managing director and head of the Aerospace, Defense & Business Services team, said, 'Bill knows aerospace and defence literally inside and out, which will be a great asset to Carlyle and our portfolio companies. From his days as an Air Force fighter pilot to his experience running aviation manufacturing and service companies, his experience gives him exceptional insights into market trends and customer needs.'

Boisture is on the board of directors of the Association of Graduates of the Air Force Academy, a trustee of the Falcon Foundation and a member of the World Presidents Organization.




Well,


Didnt he fight the union tooth and nail at NJ? I dont see why he would come here and put himself in the fight. Time will tell....

The Goose
 
Bullwinkle

Heard a good one the other day, sounds feasible though.

Bill Boisture to take over reins at FLOPS, Mike Schwinga to get sacked.

Anyone would be an improvement over our current moron CEO. Hell, Bullwinkle would be a huge step up from Sh!thead. :laugh:

So, where did your rumor start, probably with a Floptions pilot?
 
Bill Boisture joins Carlyle as senior advisor
05/06/2006. Source: AltAssets.
dotline2.gif

W W Boisture, Jr, a former president of NetJets, has joined US private equity giant The Carlyle Group as a senior advisor to the aerospace and defence team. Boisture will help identify attractive investments in the aerospace, defence and business services sectors. He will also provide management, industry and marketing guidance to existing portfolio companies.
Prior to joining NetJets, Boisture served from 1994 to 2003 at General Dynamics Corporation in several senior capacities.

From 1991 to 1993 Boisture was president of British Aerospace Corporate Jets, and from 1989 to 1991 he was chairman and chief executive officer of Butler Aviation, predecessor company to Signature Flight Services. He also served in senior capacities at Skyworld/Ports of Call Airlines, Simuflite Training International and Candair (predecessor company to Bombardier Aerospace).

Boisture was a fighter pilot in the US Air Force and was honourably discharged as a major after 11 years of service.

Peter J Clare, Carlyle managing director and head of the Aerospace, Defense & Business Services team, said, 'Bill knows aerospace and defence literally inside and out, which will be a great asset to Carlyle and our portfolio companies. From his days as an Air Force fighter pilot to his experience running aviation manufacturing and service companies, his experience gives him exceptional insights into market trends and customer needs.'

Boisture is on the board of directors of the Association of Graduates of the Air Force Academy, a trustee of the Falcon Foundation and a member of the World Presidents Organization.




Well,


Didnt he fight the union tooth and nail at NJ? I dont see why he would come here and put himself in the fight. Time will tell....

The Goose


Bill B is a union buster..That's his MO...Smack the sh&t out of him like we did..
 
Think the Jack Palance character in SHANE...

He will be brought in for one job...to kill the union.

As posted above, if he shows up...do what Shane did! ;)
 
I was listening to a senior negotiator at NJA. He said he was in the the negotiating room when the turning point in the 05 negotiations happened. That was when Moisture realized that the nja pilots where ready to burn the place down rather than take the company offer/continue with the 98cba. FLOPS pilots will not get a contract until then make managment realize they are ready to burn the place down..
 
I was listening to a senior negotiator at NJA. He said he was in the the negotiating room when the turning point in the 05 negotiations happened. That was when Moisture realized that the nja pilots where ready to burn the place down rather than take the company offer/continue with the 98cba. FLOPS pilots will not get a contract until then make managment realize they are ready to burn the place down..


Moisture is a hired gun. He isn't even very good. He is unoriginal and easy to upset emotionally. He turns red and blue veins when you get him.

Get him!

Anyway, he's a hack... there is someone pulling his strings at all times and he is authorized to do nothing he doesn't offer as a result of being authorized. Never accept no from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.

With Flight Options management mentality... only one thing is certain. Unless you are prepared to lose everything, you will gain NOTHING.

Moisture's employment contract is signed and secured before he steps on your property. The less you get the more he does.

Give him a kiss for us boys. He likes Airforce games... he was once a pilot and he'll use that fact to try and get in close to you.

Moisty, moisty... I'm so glad you left here... we just got the place running well again.
 
moisture

He hired and fired a bunch of people when he came here at NJ. He will ask for your "help" to try and make things right but hes just gathering facts to screw you during those long hard negotiations.

Probably one of the better tactics we used (at least for pilot satisfaction) was to not to ask any questions during his talks.... and we all showed up with union shirts. He was pretty upset when we first started doing it..... later speeches would end with, " I know you dont have any questions for me" and he would leave.

Shorteded up his BS speeches a bunch.
 
He is so sad when he talks to you.

He will be soft spoken and give this little speech while he draws a chart on the chalkboard.

He will make little circles that represent costs. One will be pay. He will explain how in order to make more wages you will have to work more. (To add to one circle you have to take from another, in other words he has a finite number of money that he will "allow you" to re-allocate it to make it work! (More money, more days)

He will explain how you are paid out of profits. There are no profits until you cover the overhead of doing business.

He will appear as if "gosh guys I really want you to have more money, but it's just not there".

We took a picture of the blackboard after the speech, we were all pointing at it and some were laughing and some were looking real perplexed?

What a f=ing dope, and I'm no braniac in finance.

I was waiting for his job to be announced after he got canned. I had never even realized I could be the president of a company? You don't have to know anything? All you have to do is draw little circles and talk softly. You don't have to know anything about a business model. And you are already paid when you get there!

Flops ladies and gentlemen, your battle has officially begun.
 
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He hired and fired a bunch of people when he came here at NJ. He will ask for your "help" to try and make things right but hes just gathering facts to screw you during those long hard negotiations.

Probably one of the better tactics we used (at least for pilot satisfaction) was to not to ask any questions during his talks.... and we all showed up with union shirts. He was pretty upset when we first started doing it..... later speeches would end with, " I know you dont have any questions for me" and he would leave.

Shorteded up his BS speeches a bunch.


That is awesome.

Unity. Pride. Strength.
 
Probably one of the better tactics we used (at least for pilot satisfaction) was to not to ask any questions during his talks.... and we all showed up with union shirts. He was pretty upset when we first started doing it..... later speeches would end with, " I know you dont have any questions for me" and he would leave.

Shorteded up his BS speeches a bunch.

This is part of the problem at FLOPS. We have company meetings in DAL, during training, and we still have pilots just "wanting to hear what they have to say" and "not believing what they say, I just want to hear anyway".

When will we get it, just showing up gives the company hope.

Right now I think about 25% show up for the company meeting and an hour later 75% show up for the Union meeting. Just think if 0% showed up for the company and 100% showed up for the union meeting.

That would send a serious message to the company!!!
 
Sorry I forgot to say!

I was speaking of the vermin known as....

ousthammer? Wistachere? lamesture?

oh I can't rememnber the name, only that they were inept and spoke as a sloth to a lion.


Take a lesson from the movie "Gladiator"!!!!

Circle and organize.
 
Moisture is a hired gun. He isn't even very good. He is unoriginal and easy to upset emotionally. He turns red and blue veins when you get him.

Oh yeah, I remember company re-current right after the POSTA got voted down. Several of us were having a field day with Billy Boy. Nothing mean just honest questions that he didn't like. He turned red, then purple and then he kind of lost it. His lap dog MacGhee finally stepped in or he could have stoked out. Ahh, good times.

I would have loved to been in the re-current when people stopped asking him questions and just looked at him. Not a question asked not a word. Heard he about lost it then also.
 
Oh yeah, I remember company re-current right after the POSTA got voted down. Several of us were having a field day with Billy Boy. Nothing mean just honest questions that he didn't like. He turned red, then purple and then he kind of lost it. His lap dog MacGhee finally stepped in or he could have stoked out. Ahh, good times.

I would have loved to been in the re-current when people stopped asking him questions and just looked at him. Not a question asked not a word. Heard he about lost it then also.

Heard from high up "We are still recovering from how bad he screwed everything up here" Maybe its good for us to having him run the competition........
 
Heard from high up "We are still recovering from how bad he screwed everything up here" Maybe its good for us to having him run the competition........

Yeah, the most telling thing about BB is when I ran into a former Gulfstream test pilot in SFO the day NJA hired him. His words to me were, "Better you guys then us."
 
I will never forget when I asked him in recurrent why the interiors of the aircraft were suddenly allowed to be so run down, and that our owners expected much better quality. His answer was "We need to lower expectations." I knew then, we were in trouble. That being said, it is amazing how much things improved shortly after he was gone. He was hands down the worst manager I have seen in my 12 years at NJA.
 
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His answer was "We need to Lower eXpectations."

Well, it would appear that FlOps is just the place for Mr. Moisture. Our "newest" fleet N-numbers already reflect his philosophy :eek: :D
 
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Flight Options, where idiots turn pro! :cartman:
 

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