Rumor at ASA

[MoroniMetro]

Delta is not trying to charge for the Jumpseat like AirTran does. Flyer 2000's post passes the sniff test. Commuters at both airlines are very concerned about the pass benefit changes and seeing as how the majority of flying is now performed by DCI, it is not hard to do the math and figure out who gets harmed the worst in this deal.

I've jumped on AT several times and have not been charged. I guess they just don't like you.

 

[Papa Woody]

IF I am ever charged a penny to ride a Delta jumpseat, I will ALWAYS find a "reason" to deny a Delta pilot a ride on mine.

ALWAYS.

 

[DAL737FO]

IF I am ever charged a penny to ride a Delta jumpseat, I will ALWAYS find a "reason" to deny a Delta pilot a ride on mine.

ALWAYS.

Great! Another idiot loses a job in aviation for being stupid. That helps clean out the gene pool.

 

[jstyle13]

Great! Another idiot loses a job in aviation for being stupid. That helps clean out the gene pool.

I guarantee he's not the only one here that feels that way.

Are mainline guys gonna do anything about it if we do start getting charged to ride the mainline JS, while Airtran, FedEx, Southwest guys get a free ride....

They might do something if they keep getting denied on DCI JS's......

 

[~~~^~~~]

I've jumped on AT several times and have not been charged. I guess they just don't like you.

I've never been charged either and the AirTran pilots have always been extreemly nice. But, their airline's policy is to charge for everything over 1, which is different than most of their reciprocal agreements.

 

[~~~^~~~]

IF I am ever charged a penny to ride a Delta jumpseat, I will ALWAYS find a "reason" to deny a Delta pilot a ride on mine.

ALWAYS.

Delta pilots had absolutely nothing to do with this. Why you after them - when in fact they are mostly the people responsible for trying to get those who write the software to fix the glitch?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

C'mon guys, this has nothing to do with either pilot group. Let's see if it happens, and if it does, let the two jumpseat coordinators deal with it.

 

[goahead]

Agreed the AT guys are very nice and always give you the time of day. One of their gate agents told me that they stopped charging for the 2nd js and beyond due to the majority of agents just pocketing the cash......

 

[John Pennekamp]

Great! Another idiot loses a job in aviation for being stupid. That helps clean out the gene pool.

Just to play devil's advocate, kindly cite some examples where a captain lost his job for denying an OAL pilot a jumpseat. More typical Double Breasted Arrogance on your part.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Delta pilots had absolutely nothing to do with this. Why you after them - when in fact they are mostly the people responsible for trying to get those who write the software to fix the glitch?

Not so fast, Fins. If DALPA stuck their necks out and demanded that the asinine new pass system was reversed it would happen. But they won't. They filed a lawsuit years ago to STOP us from getting pass benefits with DOH seniority. You are perfectly happy with the system, because it favors you. We pay on you, you don't pay on us. Yeah... that's fair.

No, I do blame the pilots, each and every one of you for allowing this to happen without a fight, and in come cases, cheering it. As far as I'm concerned, I'll be taking lots of extra fuel and will be very weight limited in all of those Florida cities the Delta pilots commute from until this gets changed. I know lots of pilots who will be doing the same.

And to think that you used to support the group suing Delta for equal representation when you wore silver stripes. Then you slip on a Double Breasted jacket and forget all about the little guys. How sad.

 

[rightseatjocky]

I will be jump seating tomorrow on Skywest and Delta. I will let you all know if I get charged.

 

[PCL_128]

And to think that you used to support the group suing Delta for equal representation when you wore silver stripes. Then you slip on a Double Breasted jacket and forget all about the little guys. How sad.

That's a little harsh. I don't think Fins supports the new system, he just doesn't think that the DAL pilots are the ones who should be punished for it. Did you also deny jumpseats to FedEx ALPA members before their company complied with the requirements for CASS so you could ride on them? It doesn't seem right to attack the average DAL pilot trying to get to work or home simply because of something that their company is doing to you.

 

[ehaecker]

I have never been charged on AirTran. They are always great unless you have a nazi gate agent (which happens a lot in ATL).

 

[FmrFreightDog]

That's a little harsh. I don't think Fins supports the new system, he just doesn't think that the DAL pilots are the ones who should be punished for it. Did you also deny jumpseats to FedEx ALPA members before their company complied with the requirements for CASS so you could ride on them? It doesn't seem right to attack the average DAL pilot trying to get to work or home simply because of something that their company is doing to you.

With all due respect.... there's a lot of history there, and if you didn't work at ASA during the RJDC's heyday then you can't even begin to understand JP's point. IMHO, Fins would have been among the first to be outraged about this issue if he was still on the ASA seniority list, but now that he works for the "mother ship", the shoe is most definitely on the other foot. If I were still at ASA, I wouldn't deny Fins my JS over this issue, but I would take the opportunity to try to get him to explain to me how a chest-thumping RJDC supporter can turn into a self-aggrandizing Deltoid seemingly overnight. My hypocrisy meter is pegged on this one

 

[John Pennekamp]

With all due respect.... there's a lot of history there, and if you didn't work at ASA during the RJDC's heyday then you can't even begin to understand JP's point. IMHO, Fins would have been among the first to be outraged about this issue if he was still on the ASA seniority list, but now that he works for the "mother ship", the shoe is most definitely on the other foot. If I were still at ASA, I wouldn't deny Fins my JS over this issue, but I would take the opportunity to try to get him to explain to me how a chest-thumping RJDC supporter can turn into a self-aggrandizing Deltoid seemingly overnight. My hypocrisy meter is pegged on this one

Exactly.

And speaking to the "history" on this issue, the DMEC filed a grievance in 2000 to strip us of our pass benefits. They have been working to that end ever since. It seems they finally got their wish. Yes, I blame the pilots.

UPS/FDX? Always welcome. They never did anything to me.