First of all, it was your husband, not you.
Here we go again....
When a pilot has a spouse and/or children, the whole family is affected by the contract/Union. Spouses can belong to the message board and learn how the Union works--from the inside, especially when married to a union leader. So, as I didn't belong to the union that forced my most recent layoff, I'm just as qualified as you to speak my piece.
I beg to differ. I have the inside perspective while you are complaining from the outside. Furthermore, we're discussing 1108. The Local that the Options pilotgroup happens to belong to. All unions are not alike-- just as people are different, the members make the union what it is. One union can even be different over time depending on the leadership. 1108 is nothing like its predecessor, 284.
I've been on the receiving end of what ALPA can do to a carrier and that also qualifies me to speak my mind.
I agree w/Hobbes. You seem to be in the wrong forum. 1108 is not ALPA. Furthermore, I spent just enough time at a fractional to clearly understand the challenges and financial stucture.
When was that? Are you suggesting the 3000 plus members of 1108 do not?
If it churned up a few bad memories, I'm not sorry.
I wasn't looking for it, but most would express sympathy.
I also lost a job at a major carrier at the same time your husband lost his.
That's too bad. What was the job? They were both for the same exact reason. Unions...
It is human reaction to look for a scape goat. .....hence your husband and I were both forced into career changes neither of us planned on.
True, but he likes frac flying better; our story had a happy ending. Did yours?
You can say what you want about unions, but the fact is that if the union acted quicker
Hardly...
My husband was furloughed by the end of Sept; the decision was made by management right away. I was angry at their knee-jerk reaction. They didn't know for sure how the country would react. They just wanted to reorganize and pay pilots chump change wages at the Regionals. your husband would be looking at a much larger payday ten years from now than he is now.
Bogus! AA offered to let him keep flying--at Eagle. Lots of RJ pilots have come to NJA, and more are currently applying. All the CEOs that were previously heros...
I'm not agreeing that they were. IMO they were unethical. My husband and other pilots tell me the airlines were mismanaged long before 9-11. And we all know that corporate greed has been a problem in our country, especially among CEOs...
Your husband has chosen a fractional with a small airplane with a union,
Exactly. His career is our family's greatest investment and must be protected with a contract. We chose rules over whims. I chose the non union carrier that operates big airplanes.
Who? What do you do there? What do they pay their pilots? BTW, posters routinely compare pay and info here; it isn't considered rude to ask such questions.
I have secured my future by ensuring that no union will EVER screw me over again.
And will you also admit that you are making a prejudiced statement against 1108--the Union in this industry--who has a great record of standing up for its members AND working well with management? My career is in my hands, and not in the hands of somebody that says they are out for my best interest, then drags their feet to the point of which layoffs begin to occur.
If you truly understood the history of the frac industry you would know that in this case it is managers who have drug their feet and held wages down at levels that qualify for govt assistance.
Your husband has chosen to repeat what you've done before. The future remains to be seen, but I chose NOT to go down the failed road a second time.(hint, hint)