RJDC/ALPA settle...

[regionaltard]

LOL. Come on, Joe, just admit that this was a huge failure for the RJDC. Your buddies realized that their lawsuit was going nowhere (just as I've been saying for years), and they made a last ditch effort to settle so they could get ALPA to pay for some of their legal bills. That incompetent boob Haber isn't cheap. If anyone wants to take a look at the original RJDC settlement proposal, take a look at their website. It included copious amounts of concessions on ALPA's part, none of which are included in this final settlement deal. ALPA told them to pound sand with their ridiculous proposal back then, so the RJDC wankers fought it out in court for years until realizing that it was a dead end, so they took what little bit they could get: reimbursement for legal fees and an unimportant addition to the Admin Manual.

Just for old times sake, I'm bringing back the anti-RJDC avatar for a few days. I know you'll be thrilled, Joe. :beer:

I just realized something. You're an idiot.

Let's break down your career: Bought your way in (no, we're not talking about the flight training that all of us paid for in one way or another), was able to leverage that into a job with the only airline out there that is consistently mentioned in the same breath as Mesa (that, having put it in the rear-view mirror, you now deem worthy of the "friends don't let friends" treatment), and then moved on to an airline that has more scabs than a meth addicts' convention. ValuJet got started when Robert Priddy realized that the Eastern replacement mowing his lawn was probably desperate enough to work for just about anything to get back into the flying biz, and Yes Sparky, they are the same airline. You're kidding yourself if you think that what they're looking for in the people they hire has changed over the years.

News flash: Cloaking yourself in the mantle of a Trade Unionist doesn't change a thing-you fit their profile to a T. Your non-stop ranting against the RJDC when you're not chanting the "I know my place, the Regionals are $hit, I want to get there the right way" mantra while simultaneously tooting your little ALPA horn would be comical if it weren't so pathetic. Here's another News Flash: You wouldn't know Scope if it walked up and bit you on the a$$. Scope died when Chuck Giambusso decided that his Squadron buddies would look silly climbing out of an RJ. The whole "mainline pilots own the code" thing? Laughable. I'm certain that Management thought so, especially when they realized how much equity they had in simply letting mainline pilot groups believe it. Scope was the only thing that we ever owned, and we pi$$ed that away like Mike Tyson on a coke bender. You can laugh at the RJDC all you want but all they were really trying to do was put the Genie back into the bottle.

Bonfire of the Vanities would be a great title for Chapter 3 of the history of the organization whose success in resisting change has you creaming your underoos. Too bad Tom Wolfe beat you to it.

 

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Here's another News Flash: You wouldn't know Scope if it walked up and bit you on the a$$. Scope died when Chuck Giambusso decided that his Squadron buddies would look silly climbing out of an RJ.

Scope was the only thing that we ever owned, and we pi$$ed that away like Mike Tyson on a coke bender. You can laugh at the RJDC all you want but all they were really trying to do was put the Genie back into the bottle.

Bonfire of the Vanities would be a great title for Chapter 3 of the history of the organization whose success in resisting change has you creaming your underoos. Too bad Tom Wolfe beat you to it.

Wow - incredible post and spot on.

 

[michael707767]

Scope died when Chuck Giambusso decided that his Squadron buddies would look silly climbing out of an RJ. The whole "mainline pilots own the code" thing? Laughable. I'm certain that Management thought so, especially when they realized how much equity they had in simply letting mainline pilot groups believe it. Scope was the only thing that we ever owned, and we pi$$ed that away like Mike Tyson on a coke bender. You can laugh at the RJDC all you want but all they were really trying to do was put the Genie back into the bottle.

I agree with this post right up to the end.

Giambusso and his buddies opened the doors. Moak and his buddies opened it further.

The RJDC is not trying to put the genie in the bottle, they are trying to force the door completely open door and eliminate scope.

 

[GogglesPisano]

I just realized something. You're an idiot.

Let's break down your career: Bought your way in (no, we're not talking about the flight training that all of us paid for in one way or another), was able to leverage that into a job with the only airline out there that is consistently mentioned in the same breath as Mesa (that, having put it in the rear-view mirror, you now deem worthy of the "friends don't let friends" treatment), and then moved on to an airline that has more scabs than a meth addicts' convention. ValuJet got started when Robert Priddy realized that the Eastern replacement mowing his lawn was probably desperate enough to work for just about anything to get back into the flying biz, and Yes Sparky, they are the same airline. You're kidding yourself if you think that what they're looking for in the people they hire has changed over the years.

News flash: Cloaking yourself in the mantle of a Trade Unionist doesn't change a thing-you fit their profile to a T. Your non-stop ranting against the RJDC when you're not chanting the "I know my place, the Regionals are $hit, I want to get there the right way" mantra while simultaneously tooting your little ALPA horn would be comical if it weren't so pathetic. Here's another News Flash: You wouldn't know Scope if it walked up and bit you on the a$$. Scope died when Chuck Giambusso decided that his Squadron buddies would look silly climbing out of an RJ. The whole "mainline pilots own the code" thing? Laughable. I'm certain that Management thought so, especially when they realized how much equity they had in simply letting mainline pilot groups believe it. Scope was the only thing that we ever owned, and we pi$$ed that away like Mike Tyson on a coke bender. You can laugh at the RJDC all you want but all they were really trying to do was put the Genie back into the bottle.

Bonfire of the Vanities would be a great title for Chapter 3 of the history of the organization whose success in resisting change has you creaming your underoos. Too bad Tom Wolfe beat you to it.

Ouch. That's some acerbic wit right there.

 

[Noserider76]

There are just too many conflicting interests for mainline carriers and RJ operators to be in the same union. I don't feel like my pilot group should be handicapped during negotiations while trying to keep or expand it's flying. I'm sure pilots at RJ operators feel the same way. This is ALPA's lame attempt to keep everyone happy when someone really has to go.

If ALPA continues to cater to the regional pilots, I think you'll see mainline carriers vote them off the property one by one. After all, if you pay the lion's share of the dues you want your interests protected.
Every DL Connection RJ, flying DL passengers, is one less left seat for a DL pilot in my opinion, and we need to start taking those seats back.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Let's break down your career: Bought your way in (no, we're not talking about the flight training that all of us paid for in one way or another), was able to leverage that into a job with the only airline out there that is consistently mentioned in the same breath as Mesa (that, having put it in the rear-view mirror, you now deem worthy of the "friends don't let friends" treatment), and then moved on to an airline that has more scabs than a meth addicts' convention. ValuJet got started when Robert Priddy realized that the Eastern replacement mowing his lawn was probably desperate enough to work for just about anything to get back into the flying biz, and Yes Sparky, they are the same airline. You're kidding yourself if you think that what they're looking for in the people they hire has changed over the years.

PCL128 has anotoned for his "mistakes" at GIA, whatever that means. What mistakes have you owned up to? Let's hear it...

News flash: Cloaking yourself in the mantle of a Trade Unionist doesn't change a thing-you fit their profile to a T.

PCL128 has evolved and grown as an airline pilot. What have you done to better yourself? To make the place better?

Your non-stop ranting against the RJDC when you're not chanting the "I know my place, the Regionals are $hit, I want to get there the right way" mantra while simultaneously tooting your little ALPA horn would be comical if it weren't so pathetic.

PCL128 has done more for the Air Line Pilot profession than 90%.

After he left PCL he was still volunteering his time off...to ALPA and the profession...

Here's another News Flash: You wouldn't know Scope if it walked up and bit you on the a$$. Scope died when Chuck Giambusso decided that his Squadron buddies would look silly climbing out of an RJ. The whole "mainline pilots own the code" thing?

Yeah... you tell us how the whole scope thing should have gone down... how the major airline pilots shoulda coulda woulda...

The camel got his nose under the turboprop tent. Not the jets.

When management says we are going to hire a vendor to fly 19 seat TP's.... HOW were the major guys going to say... We will fly those TPs'. As whose employer? mainline? The commuters?

Laughable. I'm certain that Management thought so, especially when they realized how much equity they had in simply letting mainline pilot groups believe it.
Scope was the only thing that we ever owned, and we pi$$ed that away like Mike Tyson on a coke bender.

WE pissed it away? I thought this was a PCL 128 smackdown....

You can laugh at the RJDC all you want but all they were really trying to do was put the Genie back into the bottle.

BULLSH@T!!! The only thing the RJDC was trying to was carve out thier own piece of the pie at everyones expense. They are divisive, counter productive, single minded leaches that suck the life out the profession... We are trying to prevent the levee from breaking and flushing this profession down the toilet and the RJDC comes along with special carve outs...FOR THEMSELVES....

Bonfire of the Vanities would be a great title for Chapter 3 of the history of the organization whose success in resisting change has you creaming your underoos. Too bad Tom Wolfe beat you to it.

Vol. III should be based on Dante's Inferno.... Also...Those who refuese to particapte in politics shall be ruled by thier inferiors...

Dante passes through the gate of hell, on which is inscribed the famous phrase "Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate", or "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"[1] Before entering Hell completely, Dante and his guide see the Opportunists, souls of people who in life did nothing, neither for good nor evil (among these Dante recognizes either Pope Celestine V, or Pontius Pilate; the text is ambiguous). Mixed with them are the outcasts, who took no side in the Rebellion of Angels. These souls are neither in Hell nor out of it, but reside on the shores of the Acheron, their punishment to eternally pursue a banner, and be pursued by wasps and hornets that continually sting them while maggots and other such insects drink their blood and tears. This symbolizes the sting of their conscience and the repugnance of sin.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

If ALPA continues to cater to the regional pilots, I think you'll see mainline carriers vote them off the property one by one.

Where do you get this stuff? CSI Miami?

 

[ironspud]

PCL128 has anotoned for his "mistakes" at GIA, whatever that means.
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Whatever that means? It's called "whoreing yourself". This is someone even beneath the SCAB level on the labor scale. On a recent Skybus thread, Mr skywhor..uh..PCL..himself stated that folks like Skybus pilots should be "spit on". He wants to "spit on" pilots just because they are getting paid money for their labor. He instead paid the airline a salary so he could be a "pretend co-pilot" to pad his logbook. Did you understand that? HE PAID THE AIRLINE!! FOR A FRIGGIN JOB!! Talk about a scourge within your midst! Sheesh.ukeSee post on 10/19/2007 at 02:03 #117 on Skybus)

 

[PCL_128]

Ouch. That's some acerbic wit right there.

Wit? Hardly. Just a hodgepodge of mindless attacks made by countless simpletons before him on this board. His post demonstrates without a shadow of a doubt that he didn't understand the implications of what the RJDC could have done if their lawsuit was successful. He champions the importance of scope in one breath, and then hails the RJDC, whose lawsuit would have resulted in the end of all scope, in the next breath. If he really believes scope is so important, and it is, then he should be deriding the RJDC rather than holding them up as a beacon to the profession. Just another uninformed pilot.

 

[General Lee]

PCL128 has anotoned for his "mistakes" at GIA, whatever that means.
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Whatever that means? It's called "whoreing yourself". This is someone even beneath the SCAB level on the labor scale. On a recent Skybus thread, Mr skywhor..uh..PCL..himself stated that folks like Skybus pilots should be "spit on". He wants to "spit on" pilots just because they are getting paid money for their labor. He instead paid the airline a salary so he could be a "pretend co-pilot" to pad his logbook. Did you understand that? HE PAID THE AIRLINE!! FOR A FRIGGIN JOB!! Talk about a scourge within your midst! Sheesh.uke:

What airline do you work for Ironspud? Did you say Southern Air Transport flying 747s? Tell us about that airline (now with Cargo360) and it's deal for newhires? What about the $40,000 training bond? Inform us please.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[regionaltard]

I agree with this post right up to the end.

Giambusso and his buddies opened the doors. Moak and his buddies opened it further.

The RJDC is not trying to put the genie in the bottle, they are trying to force the door completely open door and eliminate scope.

You're right. It wasn't Chuck Giambusso, it was Delta Family capo Charles "Chucky Whipsaw" Giambusso. My bad.

When you say "eliminate scope" you are correct, because all we have left of Scope's is its "special" sibling, scope with a very small 's'. The conspiracy theorists who think it's all about "sneaking in the back door" don't even have the beginnings of a clue.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

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[BILL LUMBERG]

You're right. It wasn't Chuck Giambusso, it was Delta Family capo Charles "Chucky Whipsaw" Giambusso. My bad.

When you say "eliminate scope" you are correct, because all we have left of Scope's is its "special" sibling, scope with a very small 's'. The conspiracy theorists who think it's all about "sneaking in the back door" don't even have the beginnings of a clue.

Oh, please TARD, enlighten us on your master plan....

Probably doesn't have you interviewing any more for your 777 job you want does it??

 

[ironspud]

What airline do you work for Ironspud? Did you say Southern Air Transport flying 747s? Nope.Tell us about that airline (now with Cargo360) and it's deal for newhires? Don't know, don't care. What about the $40,000 training bond? Inform us please. Don't know, don't care. Sounds like you work for a bunch of dirtbags too. And, you put up with it. Well, having had the good sense to "take care of bidness" for many years, (some of which were indeed at SAI) I now wake up each morning (at home) wondering whether it will be the Colombian or French blend - and on which continent I'll take my next trip...in "real paid for" seats.

In the meantime I will fight evil where ever it may be.

Bye Bye--General Lee

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[General Lee]

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For the first time in your life Ironspud, you have been NAILED. Enjoy that 18 day trip. Incheon isn't that bad, right?

Bye Bye--General Lee