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Now that AirTran is no longer in the running for Midwest Airlines, what next? Everyone knows that AirTran has over 60 new 737-700s on order. Atlanta is mostly tapped out as far as gates are concerned. Point to point on the east coast is mostly saturated. AirTran needs a new hub and a new hub very soon to place all of those airplanes. As all the rumors keep floating, AirTran could be setting its sights on Frontier. That could trigger another bidding war. This time United may try to protect its hub in Denver and potentially pickup a southern tier hub they so covet and new airplanes at a premium. Now that the legacies are strong again, they will protect their turf. Frontier is limping, but with AirTran as a possible suitor it could be revitalized. United may see that as an opportunity to offer AirTran some doe to prevent moving into Denver and United gaining a foot hold in the southeast. Washington Dulles could be used for European expansion and Atlanta feeding United routes up and down the east coast and orlando feeding the carribean, central and south america. Hmmm....things may get interesting. What do you guys think.....have fun and be nice!
 
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United doesn't have any "doe" (dough) to be able to afford us.

And, for the love of God, I HOPE we don't try some half-ass*d merger with United.

Would have to print up more "NO" stickers. ;)

Frontier would be good... for their route structure.
Alaska would be pretty cool, too, although I don't think we're on their radar at all.

But what do I know...? :)
 
Christ, I hope not . . . . . UAL's management couldn't run a Starbucks. . . . . . . and as for the clash of pilot cultures, well, the movie "Trading Places" comes to mind, although Winthorp and Billy Ray Valentine did link up in the end to "sock it to the man". . . . . maybe it's not such a bad idea . . .
 
United doesn't have any "doe" (dough) to be able to afford us.

Except for 5 BILLION dollars in cash..
Amazing what slashing the payroll and not paying one's bills does for the bottom line

Of course they still have NO PLAN AND NO CLUE
 
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If an airline made an offer for AirTran more airlines or financial groups would up the price with a possible top bid of $2 BILLION as the final offer.
 
Lear70 said:
United doesn't have any "doe" (dough) to be able to afford us.


Frontier would be good... for their route structure.
Alaska would be pretty cool, too, although I don't think we're on their radar at all.

But what do I know...? :)
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I hear you bud, the only problem is, two weeks ago know one thought any other airline was interested in Midwest. Everyone thought, hell Midwest reject AirTran and their stock tanks and we pick up the pieces. Well that didn't happen. In fact the shareholders are going to make out big initially in this deal. We all know NW trumped AirTran to prevent them from having a hub in their backyard. ALL the legacies are out of Ch.11 and will eventually be looking to regain PRICING POWER, its just economics. (especially considering the cost of oil) Like the oil industry, banking industry, and phone industry to name a few, when it comes time to control pricing power, the big boys WILL begin to buy up the competition. The airline industry is not immuned. The airline industry just experienced some bad times after 9/11. All of the legacies now have CASH (even United....to the likes of 5 billion dollars) and a cash stock deal aimed at Orlando may not be as far fetched as you may think. (Trust me United has plenty of money to buy AirTran) Everyone seems to subscribe to the theory that legacies are going to start merging with legacies. I don't believe that because of regulatory reasons. I believe legacies will start buying carriers that affect pricing and that would be low cost carriers. Now what would make for some legacy low cost carrier mergers....hmmm....lets have fun with this one:

Jetblue.....Northwest
Jetblue.....United
Delta....Alaska
Continental....Alaska
Northwest....Spirit
Continental...AirTran
United....AirTran
US Airways....Spirit

Who knows...but some fun theories. Heck remember American bought Reno...who saw that coming. Hmmm...interesting things do come up in this industry.
 
It's possible, I guess... I wasn't aware that United had $5 BILLION in UNRESTRICTED cash... I was aware of just SOUTH of $1 Billion being UNRESTRICTED (available to use) and wouldn't think they'd blow all of it on us but, again, what do I know... :)

I personally wouldn't mind CAL, but have ZERO interest being part of the United group. Just my personal thoughts, your mileage may vary. ;)
 
God, i'd love to be based in DEN though.... I hate ATL!!

What if UAL and AAI got together and AAI's management ran things? It would never happen, I know, but I think they could do some great things if they had those kind of resources....

I'm not very impressed with UAL management and am pretty sure they would cash out, take the money and leave a smokin' hole for everyone else to sort out.

Good luck to ALL of us - we are ALL going to need it...
 
You guys are killin' me . . . . . .

Actually, I think AirTran will buy UAL, and, with the recent purchase of the trademark "Eastern Air Lines" from the bankruptcy court, will re-constitute EAL . . .

Of course, once merged with UAL, it will be called "Yo, Eastern" and will continue to bring air travel to those it probably shouldn't. . . .


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TV9Driver said:
God, i'd love to be based in DEN though.... I hate ATL!!

What if UAL and AAI got together and AAI's management ran things? It would never happen, I know, but I think they could do some great things if they had those kind of resources....

I'm not very impressed with UAL management and am pretty sure they would cash out, take the money and leave a smokin' hole for everyone else to sort out.

Good luck to ALL of us - we are ALL going to need it...
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AAI management would be a big improvement over Tilton and his cronies. Hell - a Taco Bell night shift manager would be an improvement...
 
Jetblue.....Northwest
Jetblue.....United
Delta....Alaska
Continental....Alaska
Northwest....Spirit
Continental...AirTran
United....AirTran
US Airways....Spirit

Who knows...but some fun theories. Heck remember American bought Reno...who saw that coming. Hmmm...interesting things do come up in this industry.


And then Frontier buys them all!!! Mark my words.
 
terryhfly said:
Jetblue.....Northwest
Jetblue.....United
Delta....Alaska
Continental....Alaska
Northwest....Spirit
Continental...AirTran
United....AirTran
US Airways....Spirit

Who knows...but some fun theories. Heck remember American bought Reno...who saw that coming. Hmmm...interesting things do come up in this industry.


And then Frontier buys them all!!! Mark my words.
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Did you mean the Frontier that will be in the Skywest INC. porfolio?
 

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