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Which is better?? Pay, upgrade, schedule, days off, working conditions, etc.. all the good stuff. I'll be looking to hopefully move to one of these companies in the near future. I was looking to get based in Denver and I heard the Denver base for republic was pretty junior equalling a short upgrade time. Also, Republic has a 2 year training contract, does Skywest.
I got hosed by signing one before, and don't want to get stuck again, or is it pretty good at Republic to where you wouldn't mind staying the two years? Any information would be great, and I don't want to hear "All regionals suck man!!" they're definately not worse than my job now. Real, helpfull information please.
 
If you want DEN then you have to be on the Republic certificate. But, don't count on a short upgrade in DEN, that will be going pretty senior for captains. The quickest upgrade at CHQ is CRP on the CRJ.

If you're determined to stay in DEN, then Skywest is a better choice.

Are you leaving Lakes?
 
How does a junior base equate to a short upgrade?
Every airline has a 'junior' base. American has a junior base and their upgrades are about 15 years.

Republic Airways (Chq, Shuttle and Republic Airlines) are running about 2+ years for the CRJ and 145. 170 (Denver) 3+.

If your flight time is accurate, you'll get the CRJ or 145.
 
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Which aircraft you get at Republic is based on nothing more than the needs of the company.
 
vclean said:
How does a junior base equate to a short upgrade?
Every airline has a 'junior' base. American has a junior base and their upgrades are about 15 years.

Republic Airways (Chq, Shuttle and Republic Airlines) are running about 2+ years for the CRJ and 145. 170 (Denver) 3+.

If your flight time is accurate, you'll get the CRJ or 145.
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Sbav is right....there is no truth to this statement, they will put you where they need you....there are 1000 hour CFI's in the right seat of 175's now
 
vclean said:
ATP mins for the 170/175.
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Incorrect - I've met some, who came from CFI jobs, with little more than 1000hrs.
SkyWest is running at 1 year right now, but that will rise shortly, as FOs are more senior than this, but don't have 2500 TT for upgrade. In 6 months SkyWest will be back to 2 years, just like RAH.
On the other hand, SkyWest does have pretty good work rules, whereas we're fighting for better this year (could get ugly).
If you want Denver, you could make it a condition of employment (get it in writing), but you'd only get a guarantee as an FO. When you upgrade, you never know where you'll end up.
 
I'm sure this doesn't even need to be said, but a 2 year upgrade now doesn't mean you'll upgrade two years from now if you're hired today, it simply means people hired two years ago are upgrading now.

With all the debate about the long term future of the CRJ at Chautauqua and what may or may not happen with bigger airplanes for RAH at Continental (a whole other thing), it is possible that the current batch of CRJ FO's may never even upgrade in the CRJ. If those planes won't be around in another 2 years, who knows what type of plane those guys may find themselves sitting in when that time comes.
 
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TAWS said:
If you want Denver, you could make it a condition of employment (get it in writing), but you'd only get a guarantee as an FO. When you upgrade, you never know where you'll end up.
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Thats got to be one of the worst interview practices I've ever heard. Only an idoit with a sense of entitlement would say to an airline, "I won't work for you unless you base me in Denver, and I want that in writing." I'm so sick of people thinking they deserve a job. Sure, there is a shortage of pilots, but that doesn't mean we want to fly with you. I don't know about Shutauqlic, but Skywest requires more than a pulse, so don't make them give it to you in writing.
 
Skaff said:
Only an idoit with a sense of entitlement would say to an airline, "I won't work for you unless you base me in Denver, and I want that in writing."
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I don't think its out of line at all to stipulate that you are only interested in employment if you can get a guarantee of being based in a particular domicile. If the airline doesn't like that "attitude", they can chose to not extend an offer. Eagle had a massive recruiting problem in the recent past but since they've started guaranteeing domiciles (not equipment) to newhires I believe they've had little problem meeting their recruitment goals.

This might be unbelievable to to some, but its quite the common practice in business outside of aviation...especially when you are in a field that is in high demand.

I'm so sick of people thinking they deserve a job.
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So am I...but wanting a particular domicile is NOT the same as thinking you deserve a job.
 
Perhaps the ATP minimum is no longer required. I know in the past it was due to a sim limitation and insurance not permitting training in the aircraft (15% ride).

Demanding anything from RAH is a mistake. You're likely to be thanked for your time and wished good luck in your career.
 
CAL will not cave on scope. Had a lot of jumpseaters lately that have reiterated that. The numbers of old guys to new guys just swung into the new guys favor like 60% new 40% old and by the time they vote they think it should be more like 75% to 25%. All the young people over there are not going to cave on the 50 seat scope agreement for jets. They have all said they would however talk about them being mainline aircraft with the pay associated with them. So I dont think RP will ever fly 170's for CAL.
 
Everyone's desparate at the minute - don'y make the mistake of thinking that you can't negotiate for your base/equipment.
The competition for candidates is strong right now and someone who would've been rejected 6 months ago would be snapped up quickly today.
Atleast one guy went straight from the interview to class on the same day at RAH - who says you can't ask for what you want?
 
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CAL will not cave on scope. Had a lot of jumpseaters lately that have reiterated that. The numbers of old guys to new guys just swung into the new guys favor like 60% new 40% old and by the time they vote they think it should be more like 75% to 25%. All the young people over there are not going to cave on the 50 seat scope agreement for jets. They have all said they would however talk about them being mainline aircraft with the pay associated with them. So I dont think RP will ever fly 170's for CAL.
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Typical XJT opinion (alot of the XJT folks are brainwashed into thinking that CAL is the ultimate place to work) - CAL mngt got these same guys to take huge concessions, without ever entering into BK. Let's not kid yourself about the power of mngt over there - they'll offer them something that they really want in return e.g. QOL (I hear their PBS system sucks, maybe they'll offer to tweak it).
 
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Typical XJT opinion (alot of the XJT folks are brainwashed into thinking that CAL is the ultimate place to work).
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Its an opinion not just shared by XJT pilots.

Despite all the concessions CAL pilots took, they did not sell their scope. Considering that as well as the large number of recently-hired regional pilots at CAL, I simply don't see them caving on 50+ seats anytime soon and I'm not sure there is a carrot big enough for that.

Stranger things have happened, though...
 
TAWS said:
Everyone's desparate at the minute - don'y make the mistake of thinking that you can't negotiate for your base/equipment.
The competition for candidates is strong right now and someone who would've been rejected 6 months ago would be snapped up quickly today.
Atleast one guy went straight from the interview to class on the same day at RAH - who says you can't ask for what you want?
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Don't make the mistake that you can negotiate it, it could cost you your job. If the guy was rejected 6 months ago and he is no more prepared for an airline job today than he was 6 months ago, he shouldn't get the job, period. If Shutauqic is accepting below the standard, then I feel for their captains. The question was, Shuttle or Skywest. If you think that the airline needs you more than you need them and that you think that you should be able to get through the interview with substandard performance and attitude, please don't try for to Skywest, you shouldn't waist our time and we don't want to waist yours.
 
For all of you trying to get on at SkyWest, the last post should ease your concerns about spelling. It is not to high on the list on abilities that they are looking for.
 
Tarzan said:
For all of you trying to get on at SkyWest, the last post should ease your concerns about spelling. It is not to high on the list on abilities that they are looking for.
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Are you referring to the contraction that I made for Shuttle/Chautauqua/Republic, or that I said Skywest instead of SkyWest
 

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