Flight Options Hiring

[WabiSabi]

Found on Avianation -

COMPANY: Flight Options DATE: Jul 15, 2007
POSITION: Pilot (First Officer)
DESCRIPTION: Locations: Denver (DEN), Atlanta (ATL), Las Vegas (LAS)
Schedule: TBD
Summary: Flight Options Pilots enjoy the pace and culture of
corporate aircraft flying. We invite experienced pilots to apply for
these positions currently open at various domiciles around the
country. Flight Options Pilots are the frontline to our owners. These
professionals will have superior customer service skills combined
with passionate attention to detail.
Qualifications and Requirements: Must meet ATP requirements and
have passed the ATP written exam; Posses at least 1500 hours
total time, 300 hours multi-engine and 100 hours multi-engine
turbine. CANPASS and valid passport required. Corporate
aircraft/part 135 experience desirable. Pilots currently on furlough
must resign their seniority and any call back rights. Pilots will be
required to domicile at DEN, ATL or LAS.
These positions will be open in our Hawker 400XP/Beechjet
program. All training costs are covered by Flight Options including
travel and lodging. These positions are also eligible for our
comprehensive benefits package and per diem. Applications will be
accepted exclusively through our website at www.flightoptions.com.
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Telephone: No phone calls

 

[johnsonrod]

Found on Avianation -

COMPANY: Flight Options DATE: Jul 15, 2007
POSITION: Pilot (First Officer)
DESCRIPTION: Locations: Denver (DEN), Atlanta (ATL), Las Vegas (LAS)
Schedule: TBD
Summary: Flight Options Pilots enjoy the pace and culture of
corporate aircraft flying. We invite experienced pilots to apply for
these positions currently open at various domiciles around the
country. Flight Options Pilots are the frontline to our owners. These
professionals will have superior customer service skills combined
with passionate attention to detail.
Qualifications and Requirements: Must meet ATP requirements and
have passed the ATP written exam; Posses at least 1500 hours
total time, 300 hours multi-engine and 100 hours multi-engine
turbine. CANPASS and valid passport required. Corporate
aircraft/part 135 experience desirable. Pilots currently on furlough
must resign their seniority and any call back rights. Pilots will be
required to domicile at DEN, ATL or LAS.
These positions will be open in our Hawker 400XP/Beechjet
program. All training costs are covered by Flight Options including
travel and lodging. These positions are also eligible for our
comprehensive benefits package and per diem. Applications will be
accepted exclusively through our website at www.flightoptions.com.
~I-Apply (unavailable) +Email this to a friend

3Back CONTACT INFORMATION
Telephone: No phone calls

Looks like the pilot attrition finally got their attention. Hmmmm - only three domicile choices this time around. I'll bet some ASA pilots in Atlanta will take the bait. I wonder what the projected upgrade time will be?

 

[dash_trash]

I wonder what the projected upgrade time will be?

It's a life sentance ... in the right seat.

Isn't LAS a tier 2? Thought you could only new hire into a tier 1? That's right, no contract ... they can change the rules when ever they want.

 

[dime line]

If anybody comes here, I don't want to hear any complaining about anything....

 

[skyismyoffice]

It's a life sentance ... in the right seat.

Isn't LAS a tier 2? Thought you could only new hire into a tier 1? That's right, no contract ... they can change the rules when ever they want.

Yup, and some have tried to re-domicile to DEN and were told that it was not available. Ha, Ha, Ha!!!

Warning! If you come to FLOPs be prepared for the rough ride ahead!!! Go IBT1108!!!

P.S. 5 years++ for upgrade

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

Is Options better than say a pretty good regional like Skywest or Reublic or Horizon?

 

[skyismyoffice]

Depends what your career goals are...

If they are 121 stay where you are...

Corporate or fractional it might not be a bad decision. My guess is that it will be fairly easy to get on here as long as you meet the advertised mins. Net Jets is definitely the best choice, but if you don't have their mins. and want to get a taste of the fracts, what the heck...

My best guess is that we still have a year of pain with the contract negotiations.

The future is still fuzzy though... Raytheon doesn't need us - Rumor is Embraer might partner/buy us...Wish I had the crystal ball...

 

[johnsonrod]

Is Options better than say a pretty good regional like Skywest or Reublic or Horizon?

Flight Options is run by a guy who used to run USAirways' Express division. He was not liked there and he is not popular at Flight Options from what I have heard. Most FO people I have spoken with have encouraged me to apply anywhere but FO. Netjets is the clear winner in terms of recommendations from existing FO pilots. I think that says a lot.......

I wouldn't leave a solid regional job for Flight Options. I would, however, consider a Netjets job vs. a job with any low-cost carrier (including Southwest).

 

[jetwash]

Upgrade about 8+ years.

If you want to get on say all the right things in the interview then join the union and pay your dues since there are a lot of good guys working to get you a good contract.

 

[dash_trash]

Flight Options is run by a guy who used to run USAirways' Express division. He was not liked there and he is not popular at Flight Options from what I have heard. Most FO people I have spoken with have encouraged me to apply anywhere but FO.

Retro-active pay cuts, retro-active per diem cuts, retro-active health care cost increases ... what's not to like about our CEO. :laugh: Those are just a few examples of what he took from the last employee group ... many who bailed to this place in hopes of a better future. But alas, he's managed to run Options into the ground also.

Run Forest Run.

Not to completely hi-jack the question of upgrade ... 8 years minimum as it stands today. :bawling:

 

[GerryG]

300 hours multi-engine and 100 hours multi-engine

300 hours multi-engine and 100 hours multi-engine
turbine... Wow!

MS it tryen to turn FLOPS into Chautauqua. Wait until the owners find out.

Of course since we are "Nothin but a bunch of overpaid buss drivers" to him, it's not surprising.

 

[dime line]

Is Options better than say a pretty good regional like Skywest or Reublic or Horizon?

No.....

 

[learflyer]

Dude, why are you still there? so you can bish about it ? Call me.

 

[b350capt]

Run away, far away, trust me, I was there.

 

[mrebuck]

Even though it would be nice to have some numbers below me on the seniority list (last number for almost 2 years)... don't come here.

I've done other part 135, 121, and 91 jobs, and this one has been my biggest regret. Although many people are trying to improve it here, this is not the place to be with so many other opportunities out there.

 

[Phoenix]

YOu got that Sh!t right

If anybody comes here, I don't want to hear any complaining about anything....

Anybody that is dumb enough to come to Options at this point in time is probably not worth having.

 

[IronManNDFW]

If you have a pulse, go ANYWHERE else!

 

[ProFracPilot]

IIIRC, didn't we have a very high percentage of "no shows" in the last hiring class a couple years back? I think history is about to repeat itself. Jobs certainly weren't as plentiful then as they are now. The hiring pool is small, and this is one of the least desirable jobs to be had at the moment.

I'll echo the advice: For the next year or so, go anywhere but Flight Options. You won't be happy here.

 

[jetwash]

I too would have to agree with the others that if you are looking at Flight Options keep looking.
With all of the problems going on you are better off at another fractional.

I too have many years invested at Flight Options and am willing to hold out for another 8 or 9 months then I will be looking for a career job like many others.

 

[TurboHonda]

If you have a pulse, go ANYWHERE else!

If you have any DECENCY, go anywhere else. You'll find yourself about as welcome here as a pesky neighbor getting involved in a domestic quarrel.

We're sorting out our problems. We'll call you when we're ready to visit.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

It's amazing to me that in today's pilot shortage type of hiring situation, that Flt Options wouldn't do home basing for their new hires. You think they'd learn from NetJets.

cliff
LRD

 

[greygoose]

You can jump on me all you want, but I am going to throw an interesting theory to all of this.
Being the latest rumor is that Embraer is looking into buying us. I find it really interesting that with this so called hush hush order of the 300's and all of a sudden we are changing our logo, I am thinking something is brewing.

 

[greygoose]

Hi!

It's amazing to me that in today's pilot shortage type of hiring situation, that Flt Options wouldn't do home basing for their new hires. You think they'd learn from NetJets.

cliff
LRD

What would they learn from Netjets?
Netjets gave HBA to all employees before the CBA, any newhire is limited to the 5 domiciles.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

You would think they would see that it wasn't working at NetJets, and that they would keep home basing.

cliff
LRD

 

[Options_SLAVE]

See my post on "so you want to work at flight options...."

 

[dime line]

See my post on "so you want to work at flight options...."

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=101175

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Training Contract!

I cant believe that nobody has mentioned the training contract! Oh and after you are a six year Beechjet first Officer and want to go the right seat of the Hawker you get to sign a new training contract along with your frozen salary with your newly assigned start date... the start date will be after you get through IOE. When your salary increase finally does come around it will be the month AFTER your new start date. You will get a check two weeks after that.

 

[skyismyoffice]

You can jump on me all you want, but I am going to throw an interesting theory to all of this.
Being the latest rumor is that Embraer is looking into buying us. I find it really interesting that with this so called hush hush order of the 300's and all of a sudden we are changing our logo, I am thinking something is brewing.

Something's brewing alright...like half a case of Budweiser and a plate of hotwings in my belly overnight...I'm just afraid of what might come out.

 

[IronManNDFW]

Oh boy here we go again!

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

We talk about trainings contracts a lot here. This is such a great example. If Company X tells its own pilots that they have to sign a contract to change equipment (or seat). Pilots who are already unionized and somewhat hostile. And those pilots can't band together enough to refuse to sign the contracts, then what possible complaint is there for Joe Navajo seeking a Lear job?

I don't know if that post was true, but if it is, then this industry can expect training contracts to become the standard, longer contracts (3 years+), and contracts that are required for upgrades, equipment changes, etc.

Question: What would happen if all the pilots in Company X refused to sign contracts?