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[FONT=arial, helvetica]Northwest Meets With Pilots
[/FONT] [FONT=arial, helvetica]By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
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[FONT=arial, helvetica]6/28/2007 2:23 PM EDT[/FONT]

[FONT=arial, helvetica]URL: http://www.thestreet.com/newsanalysis/transportation/10365474.html

Northwest (NWA) and its pilots are talking about a potential solution to the crew shortages that have led to hundreds of flight cancellations, the two sides told TheStreet.com Thursday. The company and the pilots have been meeting this week to resolve the issues, says Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association. He declined to offer details. Northwest spokesman Darren Shannon says, "We can confirm that we are informally meeting with ALPA on the staffing." Northwest has cancelled more than 500 flights from Monday through Wednesday afternoon, after canceling 453 Friday through Sunday, according to FlightStats.com. Blaufuss says pilots want a solution to the cancellation problem. "We are the ultimate investors in this airline," he says. "Our futures are tied to the future of Northwest and we want it to succeed. We don't want the sacrifices we made to save this company from liquidation squandered by poor planning and poor management." Pilots contend the cancellations reflect short staffing. Under a contract negotiated during the airline's bankruptcy, pilots' maximum flight time is 90 hours a month, up from 80 previously. That standard left slack in the system for pilots to volunteer for extra flying before reaching the federal maximum of 100 hours a month, they say. In a prepared statement, Northwest say the cancellations are due to factors including air traffic control delays, severe summer weather and higher than normal levels of pilot absenteeism. A solution to the understaffing problem may be difficult, says Drew Massie, chairman of the union's membership committee. About 400 pilots are on the recall list, where additional hires must come from. The airline has been recalling pilots since October 2006, and training about two dozen a month. It can take five weeks to retrain pilots, and training capacity is limited because many instructors are currently flying. Essentially, Massie says, "They didn't recall enough pilots soon enough."
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Heyas,

>>Northwest (NWA) and its pilots are talking about a potential solution to the crew shortages that have led to hundreds of flight cancellations, the two sides told TheStreet.com Thursday<<

Um, I really don't know what the pilots can do about anything. They're already flying the max.

I mean, unless they come up with something weird, like reproduction by binary fission or duplication by transporter accidents.

If the MEC is talking about more givebacks, the leadership will find themselves on the street faster than you can say "huh?"

Nu

 
Heyas,


Um, I really don't know what the pilots can do about anything. They're already flying the max.


Nu
Quid pro Quo - it's a union term and I have no idea which is which, but here's what I'd propose:

1. We allow NWA utilize non seniority list instructors until 1 Oct 07 AND in exchange, these should help:
2. Pay 1.5 for all hours over 80.
3. Get rid of the sick call provisions to reduce sick call durations.

Obviously, items 2 and 3 would be permenant. All should help resolve this problem.
Just a thought,
Schwanker
 
Or maybe just recall the guys on the street? Hmmm
 
Hi!

I think that NWA, like UAL and USAir, are recalling their furloughees as fast as possible, given their current traning pipeline capacities.

I know a NWA guy who just volunteered to cover some flying a couple of days ago-they said they didn't need him. He said he thinks on the -9 they are short of captains.

cliff
YIP
 
Schwanker,

NFW. It better be a hell of a lot more than what your offering. There are so many areas I cannot even begin to list them. We have them by the balls and we must squeeze very hard. Setting the narrow body floor should be high on the list, 1.5 over 70 and 2.0 over 80, domestic crew meals, etc.
 
Schwanker,

NFW. It better be a hell of a lot more than what your offering. There are so many areas I cannot even begin to list them. We have them by the balls and we must squeeze very hard. Setting the narrow body floor should be high on the list, 1.5 over 70 and 2.0 over 80, domestic crew meals, etc.

Cobraair75drvr for Negotiator! All in favor say "aye!"...

AYE !

Nu
 
Schwanker,

NFW. It better be a hell of a lot more than what your offering. There are so many areas I cannot even begin to list them. We have them by the balls and we must squeeze very hard. Setting the narrow body floor should be high on the list, 1.5 over 70 and 2.0 over 80, domestic crew meals, etc.

OK-I like the way you think!

Schwanker
 
2. Pay 1.5 for all hours over 80.
3. Get rid of the sick call provisions to reduce sick call durations.

2.5 X pay for anything over 75 hours.
 
Quid pro Quo - it's a union term and I have no idea which is which, but here's what I'd propose:

1. We allow NWA utilize non seniority list instructors until 1 Oct 07 AND in exchange, these should help:

And these instructors just materialize, ready, trained and qualified to teach NWA procedures? My understanding is it takes a lot longer to train an instructor than it does the pilot they are supposed to train, and training the instructor diverts resources that could be used to train pilots.......
 
One more demand I think we should make, would be the heads of Rainman and Cohen. I know everyone likes to paint Stealalot as the bad guy, but imho I think these two are much worse.
 
Look at what Cohen did to US Air before he joined the cronies at NWA...get rid of the whole gang.
 
One more demand I think we should make, would be the heads of Rainman and Cohen. I know everyone likes to paint Stealalot as the bad guy, but imho I think these two are much worse.

A waste of negotiation capital.... what will you do when the replacements are worse?
 
Ever been sexually assaulted while having your pocket picked then told "you had to because it was required"?

Yes you have!

Now more than you can handle at record load factors.

Anyone want to buy a bridge?
 
Ever been sexually assaulted while having your pocket picked then told "you had to because it was required"?

Yes you have!

Now more than you can handle at record load factors.

Anyone want to buy a bridge?

Yep, you right, Steenland and Co. played that one like a fine guitar.
 

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