Vref, Touchdown speed in a turbojet Question

[FO 4 Life]

IMHO, there is no right answer. Every situation is different. If you feel you need to leave power in, do it. If not, don't. Prophetic, right? Works in E145 series, B727-100&200, B757, B767. Usually I hold power longer in the 76 until roundout. FWIW

 

[CargoATRdriver]

I've got a few thousand hours in a 145. I used the same technique for all runway lengths 4000'-15000'.

-1, 2, 3, 4, 5...and....touchdown. Just fly it on in that case.

B

wow in your thousands of hours you've watched this and noticed that the DISTANCE REMAINING SIGNS count 1 2 3 4 5??? is that in the rear view mirrors or somethin???

 

[30West]

When you start flying bigger a/c, you will find out that flaring much more than than keeping the nose off the ground will actually make you sink faster and plant it.

Exactly. On the DC-10, if you "yank flare" you will pile drive the mains onto the concrete.
A good rule of thumb is to take the first two numbers of your landing weight and use that radio altitude as your flare(400,000lbs= 40ft). Worked out nicely.

 

[Fred Rogers]

He said, "That's the way I fly."

What an idiot.

 

[ratherbeflyen]

A good rule of thumb is to take the first two numbers of your landing weight and use that radio altitude as your flare(400,000lbs= 40ft). Worked out nicely.

So if your in a Lear landing at 9000 lbs. would you flare at 9 or 90 feet?

 

[DrewBlows]

So if your in a Lear landing at 9000 lbs. would you flare at 9 or 90 feet?

Hmmmm... I don't think that works. Using the 400,000 to 40 ratio (10,000 to 1) a 9,000 pound Lear would have to start the flare at 11 inches. Good luck with that.

 

[30West]

So if your in a Lear landing at 9000 lbs. would you flare at 9 or 90 feet?

Don't know. Haven't flown light twins in awhile.
Sorry, it was type specific, disregard.

 

[OPECJet]

The guy that taught me how to fly Lears preached to hold Vref until you felt the ground effect cushion the airplane, then bring them to idle and fly it on. That also worked when I started flying the Sabreliner. I've missed it a couple of times and had to add power (those baby turbojets will spool darn near instantly) to keep it from smashing on.

I have no RJ time, so I don't know if it will work with those airplanes, but it might be worth trying. At least in an ERJ. From what I've seen in a CRJ, it would have you touching down on the thousand foot markers at the opposite end.

 

[Say Again Over]

Each landing has different conditions but generally for A320/321's, crossing the fence on Vref and chopping the power at 30'. works fine.

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Chop the power at 100 and if its a 700/900 flare the $hit out of it, you should get a shaker just as the mains hit,,,smooth as silk no float

did someone say as smooth as silk.... Thats how every landing should be.