Mesaba is now owned by NWA

[IFIxUmUBrakeUm]

as of today mesaba is out of chap 11 and a child of nwa

 

[Regional4life]

as of today mesaba is out of chap 11 and a child of nwa

When does Spanjers resign?

 

[fly4ever]

Great! Now XJ employees can get the shaft from Big Brother directly instead of the middle man.

 

[IFIxUmUBrakeUm]

but a least foleys gone

 

[A-Track]

Unfortunately I don't think it will be much different than when Foley was around. Instead of MAIR taking (or stealing depending on how you want to look at it) now NWA will get all the profits.

 

[DoinTime]

Let the NWALPA v. Mesaba scope battle begin.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Let the NWALPA v. Mesaba scope battle begin.

I think that battle will benefit you.

Granted, I still think there's more to gain for all of us by my MEC declaring a PID and forcing a confrontation, but I also think the resultant settlement of the grievance will force some issues too.

NWA can't divest MSA right now...the the current CSA (made moot by the purchase) won't entice a strong IPO...nto to mention the fact that the Unsecured Creditors would have a lot to say about the potential profits from such a move. They also can't operate the larger RJ's without setting up a flow-through (the core of the grievance). I think that leads to some sort of settlement.

Management bought a team of draft horses, but we're the only one's who sell harnesses. They won't get any useful work out of the team unless this gets settled.

We'll see how my MEC acts.

 

[DoinTime]

What will be really interesting is if NWA makes a another power play against the Mesaba pilots like they did when they aquired Express I. "Open your contract or watch us liquidate the airline."

Everyone here thought being aquired by NWA great until they shoved this sh*tty contract down our throats.

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

What will be really interesting is if NWA makes a another power play against the Mesaba pilots like they did when they aquired Express I. "Open your contract or watch us liquidate the airline."

Everyone here thought being aquired by NWA great until they shoved this sh*tty contract down our throats.

They paid a lot less for Express I than Mesaba, more to lose if they liquidate Mesaba i.e. $150m vs. I-think-it-was,-not-sure,-please-don't-quote-me-on-this-$6m.

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

Everyone here thought being aquired by NWA great until they shoved this sh*tty contract down our throats.

Yep, you went from a few Saabs in one base (MEM) to 140 jets in 3 bases with upgrades in less than a year, you're right, things went from bad to worse. Bet you wish Brady and his wife were still running the airline.

 

[DoinTime]

Bet you wish Brady and his wife were still running the airline.

At least they were honest.

 

[Inconceivable]

I think not!

 

[pilotpat]

I got a fevah! And the only prescription is more cowbell! This thread needs more cowbell!

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I think that battle will benefit you.

Granted, I still think there's more to gain for all of us by my MEC declaring a PID and forcing a confrontation, but I also think the resultant settlement of the grievance will force some issues too.

NWA can't divest MSA right now...the the current CSA (made moot by the purchase) won't entice a strong IPO...nto to mention the fact that the Unsecured Creditors would have a lot to say about the potential profits from such a move. They also can't operate the larger RJ's without setting up a flow-through (the core of the grievance). I think that leads to some sort of settlement.

Management bought a team of draft horses, but we're the only one's who sell harnesses. They won't get any useful work out of the team unless this gets settled.

We'll see how my MEC acts.

The MEC will roll over, the only ones who want a PID are the junior pilots. ALPA has shown how it feels about those members.

 

[Occam's Razor]

The MEC will roll over, the only ones who want a PID are the junior pilots. ALPA has shown how it feels about those members.

Slow night in the SOC, Mr. Rainey?

 

[SEVEN]

Slow night in the SOC, Mr. Rainey?

Is the man pulling the strings behind the curtain revealed? I would like more courage Mr. Oz.

 

[CubanSmoker]

....Yawn.....

 

[Thedude]

SO how many months is it gonna be until the Mesaba guys start whining about flow though

 

[Lear70]

Probably about 15 days... I don't think the time will measured in "months" versus "weeks".

That said, they deserve it. They have been whipsawed worse than any other redtail group to date, and those who are still there slaving away deserve to payback...

I sincerely hope they get full seniority rights into a mainline seniority number and flow-through as NWA hires. After everything they've been through, that would be the only honorable way to resolve it.

Good luck, guys!

 

[Lazy8]

Will be interesting to see how much more is invested into Big Sky now. That's a good sum of cash to play with.

 

[norskman2]

Probably about 15 days... I don't think the time will measured in "months" versus "weeks".

That said, they deserve it. They have been whipsawed worse than any other redtail group to date, and those who are still there slaving away deserve to payback...

I sincerely hope they get full seniority rights into a mainline seniority number and flow-through as NWA hires. After everything they've been through, that would be the only honorable way to resolve it.

Good luck, guys!

Not to put a damper on the flowthrough talk, as it IS deserved by the XJ'ers, who have definitely been through the wringer, and deserve those opportunities. But hiring is always highly cyclical, and the flowBACKS wreaked havoc and pain on Eagle and ExpressJet pilots for a long time.

 

[Rook]

as it IS deserved by the XJ'ers, who have definitely been through the wringer, and deserve those opportunities.

Obi-Wan once thought as you did...

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Slow night in the SOC, Mr. Rainey?

Well, are you going to prove me wrong?

 

[Occam's Razor]

Well, are you going to prove me wrong?

No sir...Mr. Rainey! I wouldn't want to say or do anything that might diminish your excessive bonus for the great operational decisions you've been making!

Next time you're spooning Mr. Campbell...tell him I think his new tasseled loafers are the BOMB!

 

[KingNothing]

Hope Spanjers, Foley, and Poerstel have their resumes ready.

 

[DTWFO]

as of today mesaba is out of chap 11 and a child of nwa

Good luck....I'm afraid you're going to need it!!

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

as of today mesaba is out of chap 11 and a child of nwa

Bring out the gimp!

 

[Thedude]

Dont forget there are 2 other NWA holdings that will be pushing for flow-thurs also

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Dont forget there are 2 other NWA holdings that will be pushing for flow-thurs also

Who besides Champion? Compass already has that provision.

 

[NuGuy]

No sir...Mr. Rainey! I wouldn't want to say or do anything that might diminish your excessive bonus for the great operational decisions you've been making!

Next time you're spooning Mr. Campbell...tell him I think his new tasseled loafers are the BOMB!

Too bad the MEC just put off the single carrier resolution at the MEC meeting. That would have rattled some cages in Eagan.

Heck, they should have passed it just for "fire for effect".

Nu