Lufthansa Airline Training Center ?

[mattpilot]

Anybody know anything about this place?

It sounds like a decent place to work with good pay ... anything i should know or be aware of?

 

[sqwkvfr]

No multi time and a "beatings will continue until morale improves" way of doing business.

Go upstairs and apply at Oxford....good pay, great bosses, and multi time if you stick it out a bit.

 

[acaTerry]

I used to work ther when they had Bonanzas and Barons. It USED to be a super, great job. Pay, benefits, work conditions, planes and students were unbeatable. Now...no thanks.
The problem is their new boss. He cut the pay, makes them punch in a timeclock like it's a factory, and oh, you get the idea. If you are a career CFI type with no desire to ever touch a twin, go ahead.
Look to ANA in Bakersfield CA. I hear that's a good place. There's a school in Tucson / Ryan, AZ that's also a career type job. Now if you just want to instruct a year or 2 and move on, Pan Am in Phoenix / Deer Valley is worth a look and really needs CFIs badly. Count on multi time there too.

 

[mattpilot]

Well i got a good job now that gives me plenty of multitime and has a great work environment. Problem is, $13 an hour ain't jack ********************. Especially if my current ratio of work for pay is 2.2 / 1.

So the other day i got a flyer in the mail advertising that lufthansa training center is hiring and starting pay is between $37-41k salary and up to $51k.

But i guess if lufthansa doens't have any twins it ain't worth working for.... hmm.

 

[acaTerry]

Keep in mind that the new way of thinking is to get you fired before you get to the high end. Also, starting pay used to be $45,000. See the trend?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Well i got a good job now that gives me plenty of multitime and has a great work environment. Problem is, $13 an hour ain't jack ********************. Especially if my current ratio of work for pay is 2.2 / 1.

So the other day i got a flyer in the mail advertising that lufthansa training center is hiring and starting pay is between $37-41k salary and up to $51k.

But i guess if lufthansa doens't have any twins it ain't worth working for.... hmm.

Seriously. You need to check out Oxford. I think they're running ads or have listings on AOPA.

I can honestly say that it's the best job I've ever had....they treat us very well.

PM me if you'd like more info.

PS...I just noticed the above post recommending some other schools.... Oxford currently employs CFIs that formerly worked at all of those places. In fact, one of them is becomming known as "pre-Oxford."

 

[pgcfii2002]

I've heard good things regarding Oxford too.

 

[sqwkvfr]

I've heard good things regarding Oxford too.

Do you have 200 dual given yet??

 

[pgcfii2002]

Hmmmm.....sitting on 40 now...and climbing!!!

 

[sqwkvfr]

Hmmmm.....sitting on 40 now...and climbing!!!

You still have the fax #, right? Pay has gone up.

 

[pgcfii2002]

I can probably dig it up. I know pay was salaried (?)....about $2200 a month.

Are they hurting that bad for CFI'S???

 

[sqwkvfr]

I can probably dig it up. I know pay was salaried (?)....about $2200 a month.

Are they hurting that bad for CFI'S???

They have some rapid expansion planned and, yes, the CFI shortage is hitting them, as well.

Starting is now @$33K a year with rapid advancement not only possible, but likely. The pay until the JAA authorization comes through is a little lower, but it's still not bad....plus, you go to the UK for your JAA conversion on the company's nickel.

....and you get treated as an asset to the company...it's a nice change from a lot of places out there.

 

[SPilot]

plus, you go to the UK for your JAA conversion on the company's nickel.

Conversion of what? Is it just an instructor permit, or do you go through the whole 14 JAA exams and get a frozen ATP or CPL?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Conversion of what? Is it just an instructor permit, or do you go through the whole 14 JAA exams and get a frozen ATP or CPL?

Oxford would not find any US instructors willing to work there if each was required to write the JAA exams.

Conversion was the wrong word...it's used loosely to describe the process of going through the required flight and ground training that leads to a limited authorization to instruct students under CAA rules.

Otherwise, Oxford would be producing competition for their own graduates. Since placement assistance with an airline is part is their program, that and the above reason combined with the considerable initial investment a conversion would require prohibits them passing out CPLs or ATPLs to their US instructors.