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Ben Dover

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For some reason this employment add just made me chuckle:

http://www.findapilot.com/index.php?a=2&b=1414

"Christian Ministry seeking full-time co-pilot candidate. A&P preferred to perform light maintenance on aircraft. Relocation to Michigan required. RON AVERAGE 3 days per week. Church service attendance required when traveling. Stable employment. Family oriented enviornment."
 
Hey! Thats my dad's brother's sister's cousin's dad's uncle! He's my pastor too! Nice teeth.
 
For some reason this employment add just made me chuckle:

http://www.findapilot.com/index.php?a=2&b=1414

"Christian Ministry seeking full-time co-pilot candidate. A&P preferred to perform light maintenance on aircraft. Relocation to Michigan required. RON AVERAGE 3 days per week. Church service attendance required when traveling. Stable employment. Family oriented enviornment."

What is wrong with having faith in a higher power. The bold is a work requirement just like a uniform or other odd job requirements.
 
This guy is the pax in back. I am hearing something very powerful, and its not the engines.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ZMKWJ36ABQ

For the record, not a atheist just a normal God fearing guy.
 
I wonder if my atheistic views would get in the way? AMEN BROTHER, YOU’RE HEALED!!!

Maybe I could hang out in strip clubs to convert the sinners! YES, THANK YOU JESUS!
 
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For some reason this employment add just made me chuckle:

http://www.findapilot.com/index.php?a=2&b=1414

"Christian Ministry seeking full-time co-pilot candidate. A&P preferred to perform light maintenance on aircraft. Relocation to Michigan required. RON AVERAGE 3 days per week. Church service attendance required when
traveling. Stable employment. Family oriented enviornment."

Damn bible thumpers.
 
Well I sure as He|| wouldnt get that job...

I'm an atheist and brown...heh...
 
I wouldn't apply for that job if that is a requirement. Of course, for a religious person that can tolerate sitting through church, it might be a great gig.
 
Reminds me of my first flight instructing job, training missionary pilots. I got really tired of hearing stuff like "I guess Jesus just didn't want me to make good landings today....."
 
What is wrong with having faith in a higher power. The bold is a work requirement just like a uniform or other odd job requirements.

A pilot needs to have faith in his/her abilities. That's what gets the rubber back on the ground. Religion doesn't enter into the mix.

The religious service attendance requirement is blatantly illegal.

C
 
A pilot needs to have faith in his/her abilities. That's what gets the rubber back on the ground. Religion doesn't enter into the mix.

The religious service attendance requirement is blatantly illegal.

C

I never said a pilot shouldn't have faith in his/her abilities. I just said what is wrong with having faith in a higher power. I trust in Jesus and that is my faith. If it is not yours, that is fine. I know there are a lot of people out there who will try to push thier beliefs, what ever they are, on other people. The great thing about this country is that I/WE have the right to have our own beliefs and not the state view as in other countries such as say Saudi Arabia where you have religious police. How right is that? Is that thier way in their country--why yes it is. Is it right? I don't think so, but I am not there and it is not my country. That is thier culture.

Now being required to attend church while out on a trip. That could be illegal if required to do so on own time. IF employer is paying you while you sit there that is a little different. I am sure someone could still press the issure and say it is not my religion. I doesn't say it has to be the same church as the employer. COULD STILL BE A VERY STICKY THING IF IT WENT TO COURT, but why apply if you don't like the requirements?
 
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What about all those bumper stickers that say "God is my co-pilot." I guess they were full of it.

I think someone should print up stickers that say "Chuck Norris is my co-pilot."
 
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

SEC. 2000e-2. [Section 703]

(a) It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer -

(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or
otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his
compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of
such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin
 
A pilot needs to have faith in his/her abilities. That's what gets the rubber back on the ground. Religion doesn't enter into the mix.

The religious service attendance requirement is blatantly illegal.

C


I wonder if it is. If it is not illegal for a corporation to require a pilot to attend company functions when on the road, why would it be illegal to attend a church service (a company function) when on the road?

They just require that you be in the room. It doesn't mean you have to participate in the services.
 
I'm no lawyer but I'm sure that one could have a field day. What if the ad said must attend Mosque service and Quran class?
 
Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964:

SEC. 2000e-2. [Section 703]

(a) It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer -

(1) to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or
otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his
compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of
such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin

It didn't say you have to be a Christian, it said you have to attend the services.
 
How about this: If the job requirements offend you.....DON'T APPLY!

That makes the most sense. People don't like feeling like they're forced to meet a requirement, but have no problem pushing their agenda on others. If you don't want to hang out with a certain group, don't go where they are, problem solved.
 
Speaking of the Televangelist Air Force...

Did any of you DFW guys see this report last week on WFAA (ch. 8) about Kenneth Copeland and his Citation that was bought CASH by his supporters and how he's been using it for his personal vacations after swearing to Jesus Himself that it wouldn't be used for anything except "Spreading the Word"? Apparently, spreading the word includes hunting trips and vacations in Hawai'i.

WFAA.com Text Story

WFAA.com Video

It's one thing to have your faith, whatever that may be. It's a whole 'nother thing to bilk the uneducated into buying your private jet and your personal airport (4T2) in the name of any deity...
 
Had a pax the other day getting snotty because we were going to make him late for church. I instructed the F/A to inform him that god was flying the plane and I said it's o.k.
 
Engine failure memory items at this place:

Identify - dead foot, dead engine

Verify - throttle back dead engine

Feather - dead engine

Mags - confirm ON

Fuel pumps - ON

Fuel selectors - Confirm all ON

Pray - to the dear Lord Jesus
 
Some Musslim will become offended with the requirements. File suit and the church will be shut down.
 
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