UPS tells Airbus to shove their Plastic tail POS

[Bavarian Chef]

1% french? Now that's pure comedy. Now if only I could get rid of all the MADE IN CHINA crap in the US -- oh that's right, the only thing not made in China is Americans.

 

[Dizel8]

hey frenchy, slow don't with your soft cheeses and fine wine... if anything is 1% french, that is too much

Frenchy, naah, not even close, just figured some wanted see what the fuss was all about before the rhetoric become too deep!

Besides, Boeing and Airbus seems to be able to work togther:
FARNBOROUGH, England (Reuters) -- Boeing Co. and Franco-German aerospace group EADS announced a preliminary deal on Tuesday to work together on ballistic missile defence systems, in an effort to secure European support for a controversial U.S. initiative.

 

[Dizel8]

-- oh that's right, the only thing not made in China is Americans.

Well, not so sure about that, we sure are importing/adopting a lot of chinese babies, I guess even in that area we outsource

 

[Rook]

Please, take one "O Brother Where Art Thou" and an episode or two of "Faulty Towers" and PM me in the morning.

Dude's got comedic taste. That's worth a couple brews.:beer:

 

[Dizel8]

"Whatever you do, don't mention the war!"

 

[flyboyike]

What do you bet FDX comes back to Airbus and negotiates a sweeter deal now that no ones buying the things?

I thought of that too, but FedEx has stated (at least officially) that the biggest issue was the timing, which won't change with a lower price. Wouldn't surprise me though.

 

[007]

Airbus = French, AND German, British and Spanish.

I love it when all these guys are talking crap on an airplanes most of them have never flown.

AA587, that's one A300 vs how many 737's ?

I have never flown either and don't care as long as the pay is where it should be, which it won't be if Airbus goes under. Boeing would adjust their prices accordingly and that will come straight from our paychecks.

Hoping for Boeing to be the only one left standing is like wanting Microsoft to buy Apple.

 

[SennaP1]

"Whatever you do, don't mention the war!"

Well you started it!!

 

[airwillydrvr]

Hey G4G5 did you ever fly an Airbus? Just wondering.

I did/do and it SUCKS! That being said has a better dispatch reliability than any of our Boeings right now.

 

[G4G5]

A lot of airplanes have gone down.

Agreed, but I don't recall too many that have had their tail snap off at 3000 ft and 250 kts just because the guy hit wake turbulence.

But at least Airbus handled ed it correctly and pined it on the pilot

 

[G4G5]

Please don't give me this, it's German, Spanish, German.....yada yada BS.

When a company spends their money on an Airbus product where does the all mighty dollar wind up? The bottom line is no taxes are paid to the US government and no profits are controlled by a US corporation.

 

[airwillydrvr]

Agreed, but I don't recall too many that have had their tail snap off at 3000 ft and 250 kts just because the guy hit wake turbulence.

But at least Airbus handled ed it correctly and pined it on the pilot

It was actually both and AA since they used to teach upset corrections using rudder. The amount of actual rudder pedal deflection was NOT floor to floor, due to the rudder limiter. Basically there were numerous players in the fault of that crash. But as they say "what's wrong with the Airbus' tail?...Toulouse! (Too loose)!

 

[Dizel8]

Well you started it!!

“We did not start it!”

 

[Dizel8]

Please don't give me this, it's German, Spanish, German.....yada yada BS.

But wait, how about your stead, does all the parts originate in the US. Seems to me, that it is powered by a RR engine, which last I checked was foreign owned.

Remember the whole debacle in Congress about airlines having to put origin of the a/c visible to the passenger, well guess what, it says final assembly, because the truth isn't so clearcut as for the parts that makes the bird. I mean after all, we don't want it to say Boeing USA, manufactured with parts from France, England, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Canada, etc.

 

[G4G5]

But wait, how about your stead, does all the parts originate in the US. Seems to me, that it is powered by a RR engine, which last I checked was foreign owned.

Remember the whole debacle in Congress about airlines having to put origin of the a/c visible to the passenger, well guess what, it says final assembly, because the truth isn't so clearcut as for the parts that makes the bird. I mean after all, we don't want it to say Boeing USA, manufactured with parts from France, England, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Canada, etc.

Your missing the point. James McNerney is the CEO of an American company called Boeing. The bottom line is that the profits, taxes and most importantly the control wind up in the hands of a NYSE publicly traded, US corporation.

 

[ptarmigan]

Agreed, but I don't recall too many that have had their tail snap off at 3000 ft and 250 kts just because the guy hit wake turbulence.

But at least Airbus handled ed it correctly and pined it on the pilot

Spoken by someone who is obviously clueless on engineering issues. If you had done the same to any Boeing or Lockheed, etc., the same would have happened. Of course, you wouldn't want the facts to confuse you.

This is actually the result of what happens when you come up with a training technique in a non-engineering sim and don't bother to check with the manufacturers (Boeing would have told them it's a bad idea too, in fact, they did when they found out about it!), nor did they check with anyone in aircraft certification that would have also known.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

If the open skies agreement goes through, the A380 probably will be canceled as it in no way could ever compete with high frequency point to point international using 787s or the like. It would be the equivalent of delta using an L1011 on routes it competes with southwest. Boeing I think knew this when they went with a 200 seat long haul aircraft.

 

[G4G5]

Hello

 

[G4G5]

Spoken by someone who is obviously clueless on engineering issues. If you had done the same to any Boeing or Lockheed, etc., the same would have happened. Of course, you wouldn't want the facts to confuse you.

This is actually the result of what happens when you come up with a training technique in a non-engineering sim and don't bother to check with the manufacturers (Boeing would have told them it's a bad idea too, in fact, they did when they found out about it!), nor did they check with anyone in aircraft certification that would have also known.

With all of your engineering experience feel free to post your FAA DER CV or send it to me in a PM. Otherwise I will just assume that it's just your opinion and will treat it as such.

Hind site is a wonderful thing.

Feel free to post the pictures you have a Boeing tail floating in Jamaica Bay.

 

[SennaP1]

“We did not start it!”

"Yes, You Did, you invaded Poland"