Gulfstream II pre-buy inspection?

[anon]

We're looking for someone to perform a pre-buy inspection for a Gulfstream II in North Carolina.

Does anyone have some experienced contacts that could do the job?

Thanks.

 

[Gatorman]

Ummm....may I offer my $0.02 here?

First, I do not know too many Gulfstream places to go in N.C. so you will have to fly it somewhere to get it gone.

Second, if I am laying down the money to get a Tech Appraisal done one an older Gulfstream, I would take it to a place that is well known for Gulfstream maintenance.

I am guessing that you are the buyer?
You should be paying a flat rate for the appraisal and have no obligation towards the repairs on the aircraft.

Suggestion: Take it to a GDAS facility (Dallas, West Palm Beach, or Teterboro)
I may cost a little bit more for them to look at it but they have the most experience on GIIs. (FYI - GDAS is owned by Gulfstream).

There is my $0.02 worth, the rest will cost a dollar!

 

[STAL6]

I know someone, PM me.

Stal6

 

[ultrarunner]

If it were me, and it was a plane I was considering, I would take it to Savannah.

 

[GVFlyer]

I have done a number of Pre-Buy (or Technical Evaluation) flights. It is worth the extra cost to have Gulfstream perform these evaluations. Trying to save money on a pre-buy is a false economy that will only bite you later.


GV

 

[Thedude]

Trying to save money on a pre-buy is a false economy that will only bite you later.
GV

What he said....

You can either pay now....or pay twice later.....an aviation secret

 

[STAL6]

Believe it or not there are people who have a lot of experience working on Gulfstream aircraft that do not work for Gulfstream Aerospace. They have the equipment and facilities to perform the tasks, some even specialize in G II per-buys and 72 month inspections.
Gulfstream is great if your aircraft is under warranty, but if not than it makes sense to shop around.
I think they should give some of you Tee-shirts for your blind faith in them.

Stal6

 

[GVFlyer]

Believe it or not there are people who have a lot of experience working on Gulfstream aircraft that do not work for Gulfstream Aerospace. They have the equipment and facilities to perform the tasks, some even specialize in G II per-buys and 72 month inspections.
Gulfstream is great if your aircraft is under warranty, but if not than it makes sense to shop around.
I think they should give some of you Tee-shirts for your blind faith in them.

Stal6

Got a tee-shirt.

Test pilots at Gulfstream are generally the product of a military test pilot school or the National Test Pilot School and all are FAA qualified test pilots with authority to issue Certificates of Airworthiness for Gulfstream aircraft. About half are FAA DARs.

Of 18 test pilots at Gulfstream Flight Ops only 5 are allowed to keep current in the G1159 so as to maintain a high level of currency in the aircraft.

I have flown scores of G-IIs and G-IIIs (as have the other TPs) so I have a pretty good yardstick against which to measure an aircraft on a technical evaluation.

Gulfstream TPs have the advantage of generally being able to pull out the Production Test Cards from when the aircraft earned its C of A when new, in addition to having access to all subsequent maintenance actions.

Gulfstream technicians also have the advantage of working with Gulfstream products on a daily basis and all must meet Cotton Hope’s Gulfstream training requirements as well as Flight Safety International’s.

I have been sent out as the hired gun from Savannah to perform the flight portion of Pre-Buys for non-GD maintenance operations.

Of these I would only recommend Private Sky Aviation at Fort Myers, FL (RSW). I worked with Private Sky’s Royce Stevens, Tony Singletary, and John Davis when they were at Gulfstream. They are top notch.



GV





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[STAL6]

Of these I would only recommend Private Sky Aviation at Fort Myers, FL (RSW). I worked with Private Sky’s Royce Stevens, Tony Singletary, and John Davis when they were at Gulfstream. They are top notch.



GV





So,we agree that there are other places to take your older Gulfstreams that can do the job professionally.

Stal6

 

[Gatorman]

Stal6...I am just as much of a Gulfstream hater.

All I have to say is this COMSCAN.

To my knowledge, there is only one other COMSCAN machine that is not owned by Gulfstream and if I were the buyer of a GII/GIII, you better believe it will have to pass that inspection.

I use to work at Gulfstream and I was told by management not to accept any customers that wanted to come in just for a COMSCAN and no they will not loan it out.

 

[GVFlyer]

So,we agree that there are other places to take your older Gulfstreams that can do the job professionally.

Stal6

I said there was one...

...and it's staffed by people Gulfstream should have never let leave.


GV

 

[GVFlyer]

Stal6...I am just as much of a Gulfstream hater.

All I have to say is this COMSCAN.

To my knowledge, there is only one other COMSCAN machine that is not owned by Gulfstream and if I were the buyer of a GII/GIII, you better believe it will have to pass that inspection.

I use to work at Gulfstream and I was told by management not to accept any customers that wanted to come in just for a COMSCAN and no they will not loan it out.

Are you talking about the Gaspardo 3D component scanning device? I know the Big G got one of those when they bought KC Dallas.


GV

 

[Gatorman]

If I remember my history right there were 5 of the machines floating around, Gulfstream owned all of them and eventually three of them wound up being canibalized for parts to support the other two.
BUT!!!
I also heard the Privateair (SP?) in Ft. Lauderdale had bought a new one.

So, there is the possiblity of three machines.

Hey GVFLYER, try calling GAC and ask them if they can work you in for a COMSCAM with out any other major maintenance.
I would be very interested in knowing how hard that laugh now days.....probably can hear them from over here across the street.

 

[GEXDriver]

Hey GVFLYER, try calling GAC and ask them if they can work you in for a COMSCAM with out any other major maintenance.
I would be very interested in knowing how hard that laugh now days.....probably can hear them from over here across the street.

Since he's a Gulfstream test pilot in Gulfstream Flight Ops at the aircraft manufacturing plant in Savannah, they might work him in.

 

[Gatorman]

No, I don't think so.
I will buy a round if GVFLYER can get a GII in to Dallas for nothing but the COMSCAN.

Sure, they will drop everything for a Flight Ops, heck, they have specific people on the crews that they pull just to take care of FLOPs.
What to talk about becoming a number instead of a valued customer? Just watch the guys on the maintenance crew start becoming fewer and fewer the more FLOPs show up, while you move to the back of the line.