Lower mins

[GEORGE DUBYA]

With the lower mins at all the regionals now does this indicate a upward swing in the whole airline biz like in the early 90's? Is this period of crap over? Are there enough pilots out there/ I saw Republic wants to hire 1000. I know that learning to fly is the most expensive it has ever been and there is less and less people learning because of the cost. Will we see soon regionals paying to train people from zero experience? That is what they did in the old days and they are doing in other places in the world. 600 and 100 is what I think is the lowest I have seen I was hired at 1200 and 200 and that was the going rate when I got hired. When regionals hire at these low mins it does not change ATP mins and different insurance mins at regionals. I see I pilot shortage coming. What does everyone think?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

There is no shortage of losers.

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

Obviously since you are.

 

[The_Russian]

There is no shortage of losers.

Agreed.

 

[CX880]

I know that learning to fly is the most expensive it has ever been and there is less and less people learning because of the cost. ?

I really don't think it's because of the cost of training. I think it's because of the cost sacrifice. Who in their right mind would want to be a way from home 20 days a month and still make less than a tow truck operator? The most you'll make at regionals is 80K, even then, that's not much. Ok by a major miracle you'll make it to major airline. You'll make around 100K after a decade and you'll still be away from home more than half the month. Meanwhile that tow truck operator you knew when you were at the regionals has now become the manager making more than you and they're home every night. By the way I'm not including SW, FX, UPS, chance of those are way off the scale.

edit, also I think airlines will make their mins O flight hours before they'll even think of raising their salaries. They'll milk SJSers untill there's none left.

 

[cynic]

I do think that long term.... maybe in 10 to 20 years you will see a shortage only because it will become impossible to train outside the military. GA will be regulated away if insurance and fuel costs don't kill it first.

 

[iflyjets4food]

Maybe I'll hold out going to a regional until the upgrade on a barbie jet at a 'decent' regional is under a year.

 

[bmpilot2003]

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[Fred Rogers]

What about all the old guys retiring?

 

[suupah]

I think G-DUB is right here. Although there are a lot losers out there willing to fly for the "glory", the demand for pilots at all levels can't be accomodated by the number pilots being trained.

I think one of the biggest determinate in pilot training is the decline of KEY BANK loans. they are not as easy to get now so not every tom, dick and harry can run over to a pilot mill and get their ratings. the pilot mills are already hurting because of it.