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sluminginpit

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Looking for info from anyone who has done online degree programs.

1. What ones are good?
2. What ones give life experience credit?
3. What ones can you start anytime and go your own pace?

Feel free to give any input you can all info is helpful.

Thanks
 
sluminginpit said:
Looking for info from anyone who has done online degree programs.

1. What ones are good?
2. What ones give life experience credit?
3. What ones can you start anytime and go your own pace?

Feel free to give any input you can all info is helpful.

Thanks
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I used to interview and hire people...

1. An online degree from a well-known, recognizeable university is good as long as there is NO WAY to tell by looking at it (or the transcripts) that the degree was online. I assume you want to get a job at a major? A lot of those folks are old-school old boyz, and consider online degrees to basically be fraudulent.

2. Anything that gives you "life experience" credit is probably a sham. I would automatically discredit anything of this sort. And I would automatically dislike the person for trying to fake something I had to work my @ss off for. There are some aviation degrees that give you legitimate course credit for past flight training.

3. Some distance learning programs have actual live lectures conducted over CCTV or the internet, but today most programs are self-paced. You may have to get things done in a certain timeline, or complete a minimum load each semester, but you can work on it whenever you like.
 
yeah well you come write my 5 page typed paper for me then. And tell Embry-Riddle they suck then !!!
 
For a 4 year degree, Utah Valley State College www.uvscaviation.com or www.aviationuniversity.com (Same program, different sites) Best online content, video, guided lectures. Cheaper than a lot of others, it's accredited, you don't pay out of state tuition, and can't tell that you did it online on your transcript. They also give some credit for prior certificates. For a masters degree, Delta State University www.deltastate.edu. They have a Master of Commercial Aviation through their school of buisness. Not the best content, but it's cheap. Also accredited, you cant tell you did it online on your transcript.
 
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sluminginpit said:
Thanks for the input. By life experience, I mean credit for my prior flight training.
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The Professional Aeronautics degree from Riddle will give you 33 credit hours if you have a comm multi. You can do this online or in a classroom at a distance learning campus, or you can do a combination of both, which is what I am doing.
 
Skaff said:
For a 4 year degree, Utah Valley State College www.uvscaviation.com or www.aviationuniversity.com (Same program, different sites) Best online content, video, guided lectures. Cheaper than a lot of others, it's accredited, you don't pay out of state tuition, and can't tell that you did it online on your transcript. They also give some credit for prior certificates. For a masters degree, Delta State University www.deltastate.edu. They have a Master of Commercial Aviation through their school of buisness. Not the best content, but it's cheap. Also accredited, you cant tell you did it online on your transcript.
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I agree 100%. I did it and really enjoyed it. It is alot of work though and its semi self-paced meaning they do traditional semesters and some teachers post deadlines for course work. And it is accredited and no way to find out it was online as previously stated.

Good Luck
 
rickair7777 said:
I used to interview and hire people...

1. An online degree from a well-known, recognizeable university is good as long as there is NO WAY to tell by looking at it (or the transcripts) that the degree was online. I assume you want to get a job at a major? A lot of those folks are old-school old boyz, and consider online degrees to basically be fraudulent.

2. Anything that gives you "life experience" credit is probably a sham. I would automatically discredit anything of this sort. And I would automatically dislike the person for trying to fake something I had to work my @ss off for. There are some aviation degrees that give you legitimate course credit for past flight training.

3. Some distance learning programs have actual live lectures conducted over CCTV or the internet, but today most programs are self-paced. You may have to get things done in a certain timeline, or complete a minimum load each semester, but you can work on it whenever you like.
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In other words; you should have legitimately wasted 5 years and $100,000 of your parents money drinking beer and chasing tail instead of pretending you did!
 
Check out www.excelsior.edu for some excellent info. The are a fully accredited university which offer a variety of online degrees. They will give you credit for your aviation training as well as allowing you to test out(rather than taking a full course) in subjects that you may have had previous experience.

You can also look at www.instacert.com for alot of great info on earning a degree as a working professional through distance learning.

Times have really changed. I think you would be regarded highly by any potential employer if you showed the courage and conviction to earn your degree while you worked full time. Just make sure to do it through a legitimate university like Excelsior, Thomas Edison, UVSC, Mountain States, or the like.

Feel free to shoot me a PM if you need any more info and don't let people discourage you...
 
The entire world does everything from banking to meeting their spouses on the internet these days. Education is no different. Every form of business has it's scam artists but to broadly caracterize on-line education as fraudulent is idiotic. Everybody I know that has done an on-line degree said it was a lot of work. It is a legitmate way to further your education.

I've consistently heard good things about the institutions listed above and you can add the University of Nebraska Omaha to the list. Hardly sounds like a fraudulent institution to me.
 
Keepin it real...

CJA said:
In other words; you should have legitimately wasted 5 years and $100,000 of your parents money drinking beer and chasing tail instead of pretending you did!
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The good old boy's from the old school don't like pretenders, ha!
 
Caveman said:
The entire world does everything from banking to meeting their spouses on the internet these days. Education is no different. Every form of business has it's scam artists but to broadly caracterize on-line education as fraudulent is idiotic. Everybody I know that has done an on-line degree said it was a lot of work. It is a legitmate way to further your education.

I've consistently heard good things about the institutions listed above and you can add the University of Nebraska Omaha to the list. Hardly sounds like a fraudulent institution to me.
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Agreed, I'm currently doing my degree online with Riddle. It's more difficult than any other college courses I've taken in the past, you do all the learning yourself and you are responsible for the due dates. If you don't get it done in time then you get an F. No lectures, no mid-term and final "study guide" etc.... Who cares if it says you did it online, to me it takes more effort and drive to get off your arse and do it yourself then sit in a classroom for four years and be spoon fed. But I'm sure those that went to a university for four years disagree but since I've done both I have my educated opinion. If you apply for a job online then why can't you finish a degree online.
 
veneratio said:
Does the Riddle Online Graduate Degree reflect on the Diploma that it was infact done online??
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No it does not. It proudly displays the same place (Daytona Beach), same seal, same signatures and same degree nomenclature as any of the facility based programs.

As for the online degree naysayers, you could not be more wrong. Again, those with the most vehement opinions seem to have done little research to back their claims.

It is all very simple. If you are interested in an online degree, I suggest these easy steps:

1- I would not suggest accomplishing an undergrad degree purely online
a) You can do a lot of the busy-work courses online, but there are some
key life skill sets that are developed being amongst your intellectual
peers
b) There are key lab courses that clearly make online versions
logistically difficult and educationally unsound
c) You can't beat campus life and I think everyone needs atleast a
couple years of that (if you are young and able to)
d) If you have been in the workplace awhile and are older, regular old
classroom work is a must for some courses as I stated before, so
you will have to just deal with that

2- Graduate degrees are a different breed of education
a) You are out in the workplace gaining life skill sets and experience
and unless you are pursuing pure research or doctoral level
education, you do not need to even see a classrom

3- When pursuing an online degree, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!
a) Go to the www.ed.gov and look for your school to ensure
accreditation. The best are regional accreditations
b) The only transferrable credits are NOT LIFESKILLS, they are pure
educational credits, and that might include SOME professional
flying since there is a sort of continuing education program that is
required
c) A Graduate degree takes ATLEAST 36 credit hours or the equivalent,
so none of that "earn your degree in a matter of months!" bull
d) Every graduate program has a "Thesis" or "Graduate Research Project" that takes MONTHS to accomplish and is on going with your regular course work. If the program doesn't advertise one, don't think that your getting off easy. There should be advanced research you learn to do and then apply in a project and it will reflect your subject-interest areas. Employers DO ASK about this as well. Believe me, I have been asked in interviews about thesis work.

4- Finally, PACE yourself because decent grades DO COUNT. You don't have to be a Magna Cum Laude, but atleast maintain a 3.0 GPA. Transcripts are fair and the usual game for employers.

5- Oh yes, the other cool thing is the continuing education opportunities to add "professional certifications" to your graduate degree which employers LOVE (it shows ambition and self motivation above and beyond).

PS -- Dont forget the tax write-offs for "continuing education credits" or "Hope Scholarship". I always got upwards of 60% of my tuition back in tax credits.

Hope that helps!
 
I have attended online courses at Utah Valley State College. Great program and accreidited by the Northwest accredidation board (same as all well known schools). Total online. The graduation certificate says that you graduated from UVSC, period. No mention of online courses. When you register its just like traditionl classes except its online. No differance these days, alot of schools have online programs.
 
Caveman said:
The entire world does everything from banking to meeting their spouses on the internet these days. Education is no different. Every form of business has it's scam artists but to broadly caracterize on-line education as fraudulent is idiotic. Everybody I know that has done an on-line degree said it was a lot of work. It is a legitmate way to further your education.

I've consistently heard good things about the institutions listed above and you can add the University of Nebraska Omaha to the list. Hardly sounds like a fraudulent institution to me.
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I didn't say it was fruadulent, I said the 50 year old guys at the major airlines probably THINK it is a scam...what they think may or may not be important to you someday.

There are plenty of traditional schools which offer online learning that results in a "normal" degree...I would recomend that to avoid the potential stigma.

Personally, I do believe you get more out of a traditional program where there are plenty of team-work projects and social interactions to be had.
 
How much do these degrees cost at UVSC? Say you need about 60 units for a BS. Can you get credit for your ratings?
 
skyhogg said:
Check out www.excelsior.edu for some excellent info. The are a fully accredited university which offer a variety of online degrees. They will give you credit for your aviation training as well as allowing you to test out(rather than taking a full course) in subjects that you may have had previous experience.
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Seriously excelsior.edu is worth looking at. They will give you credit for your ratings , but only as open electives. The rest of the stuff you have to work for, they take transfer credits, Clep, Dantes and their own exams as credit.

Because you can self pace, you can complete things faster, (ie no spring break, xmas break, summer vacation) you just keep going, with a little work you can knock off 3 credits every couple of weeks. The price is right too.

The draw back? The catalog is confusing and It's had to figure out where to start. Hint (BS in Business). Give them a call.
 
jackson said:
most won't get you anywhere.
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A distance learning degree from an accredited university is just as accepted as a regular degree. The key is in accreditation, IE the Southern States Association of schools and colleges, the New England States, the Middle states, etc . That is the key,

BE AWARE!! The are a lot of PHONEY Accreditation organizations, BUYER BEWARE! The names sound convincing but they are not regionally accredited. Do your homework on this one.

If a school says their credit may not be transferable, then they are not accredited by the organizations that matter.

see this link, if they are not accredited by an agency on this list STAY AWAY!!!

http://www.collegeanswer.com/counselor/content/resource_center/accred_agencies.jsp
 
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A lot of working adults that were not able to attend college for 4 years are all doing online education these days. I am one of them. I went straight into the Navy after high school and started my online degree while I was enlisted. I have zero regrets about it! The reality is that everyone has a different situation, so do what is best for you.​
 

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