Mesaba Recalls

[Dufus1]

So, I am talking to my mother on the phone this morning, telling her that if this TA at XJ passes, I will probably be recalled sometime after Christmas, when the doorbell rings. The big FedEx van is outside and on my porch I find an envelope. Only one thing that could be...yep, recalled as of 11/7. Anyone else get this today? What to do, what to do...

 

[SEVEN]

That's correct. The FedEx trucks are beginning to arrive. Got a call from a friend today who got the recall. DTW Chief Pilot expects half of those recalled to pass it up.

 

[avrorj-85]

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It is a strange thing that people are getting recalled when in less than a month the Avros are going away and we are only going to need 410 pilots or so. Looks like management thinks that this TA is going to pass. The sky is falling...

 

[pilotkppsg]

Which Saabs had the NxxxPX tail numbers, if figured it was an old "A" model or an ex Express One Saab? Because, not kidding, I saw one parked on the ramp in Gudalajara about two weeks ago. I believe AeroLitoral (Aero Mexico's express carrier) bought it b/c they use saabs and erjs.

 

[N590MA]

Which Saabs had the NxxxPX tail numbers, if figured it was an old "A" model or an ex Express One Saab? Because, not kidding, I saw one parked on the ramp in Gudalajara about two weeks ago. I believe AeroLitoral (Aero Mexico's express carrier) bought it b/c they use saabs and erjs.

Th PX saabs are the straight B'S we received from pinnacle. Most of our A's had the XJ designation.

 

[N590MA]

Funny how things are shaping up. I can believe the recalls because I usually get 2 to 3 JR. man calls a week. They are so short right now they are cancelling flights due to no FOs. I had hoped that all the furloughs have moved on to better places.

 

[CFIfornow]

Anyone know how many recalls they sent out?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Yeah!?!? What gives!?! I'm starting to suffer from Pilot Optimal Organization Priority Syndrome. Does Mesaba give anyone else the P.O.O.P.s?

 

[bertengineer]

9E to XJ

So how many are going to switch from 9E o XJ since they are probably going to get a lot of CRJ's?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

That's correct. The FedEx trucks are beginning to arrive. Got a call from a friend today who got the recall. DTW Chief Pilot expects half of those recalled to pass it up.

I'm thinking only half passing would be very optimistic

 

[SEVEN]

I'm thinking only half passing would be very optimistic

You're probably right. Of the friends I know who were furloughed have moved on and aren't planning on returning to XJ. I don't blame them. But I also would like to know how many recall letters were sent out?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

What a way of retraining the whole pilot group for pennies on the dollar.

 

[SEVEN]

What a way of retraining the whole pilot group for pennies on the dollar.

What do you mean by that?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

What do you mean by that?

The cost for the CRJ program at XJ is a bankruptcy claim. Those don't get paid out in full.

 

[SEVEN]

Lastest rumor from a friend who received a recall letter. He also got a call from an MSP CP asking him if he had reveived the recall letter. He told him that Northwest was giving Mesaba extra holiday flying and they need about 20 guys or so to cover that flying since they are already short staffed. He asked him if he would get furloughed again after the holiday season slowed and the CP's response was he didn't know.
So, take it with a grain of salt. Although with current attrition, and the possibility of more airplanes, I can't see them furloughing again. But what do I know.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

What do you mean by that?

When you accept the TA, Mesaba will be getting 10 pilots for the price of 8.

What a deal!

 

[YourPilotFriend]

When you accept the TA, Mesaba will be getting 10 pilots for the price of 8.

What a deal!

More like 5 for the price of 4.

 

[jumppilot03]

Whats the DOH of those getting the notice?

 

[SEVEN]

Whats the DOH of those getting the notice?

Oct 25th, 2004. That is the most junior guy being recalled.

 

[flap operator]

Got a fedex today... I am early 2001 DOH and a voluntary furlough. Planning on bypassing as long as I can 'cause I have a good gig going right now overseas.



FO

 

[SEVEN]

Received this from the MEC via email today:

Recalling Furloughed Pilots
Management has advised the MEC and the Negotiating Committee that it is planning to recall 20 furloughed pilots this month.

The Chief Pilots are calling each of the potential recalled pilots informing them of the situation and answering any questions. The furloughees are being advised that there is a possibility that furloughs could occur again in a few months, depending on attrition and if/when any growth occurs. Management has advised us that they think it is more likely that there will not be any more furloughs, but they wanted to put the returning pilots on notice of the possibility of additional furloughs.

 

[oiltycoon]

They should've been recalling much sooner. I've received 4 junior man calls since Sunday.

 

[mynameisjim]

Why do you answer the phone?

 

[TAWS]

Why would anyone go back to that style of mngt??
Here's some advice: Get a job ANYWHERE else - you'll be better off and you'll send a message that their sh!thead styl of mngt doesn't cut it anymore!

 

[SEVEN]

Why would anyone go back to that style of mngt??
Here's some advice: Get a job ANYWHERE else - you'll be better off and you'll send a message that their sh!thead styl of mngt doesn't cut it anymore!

I take it you're gonna pass on the recall if and when it comes?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Yeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Thanksgiving. We lost a few people and we need to play catch up. I'm also gonna have to ask you to come in on Christmas and New Year's as well. Thanks.

Mmmkay? Yeah, that'd be greeat. And then I'm gonna have to lay you off again. . .

 

[flyslow24]

I cannot wait to get a call or Fedex recall notice.... NOOOOO WAY IN HE**!!! HA why would you ever want to go back there!!

After all the BS this past year?

 

[TAWS]

Yeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Thanksgiving. We lost a few people and we need to play catch up. I'm also gonna have to ask you to come in on Christmas and New Year's as well. Thanks.

Mmmkay? Yeah, that'd be greeat. And then I'm gonna have to lay you off again. . .

Cost of training one SAAB Pilot: $ (insert dollar amt here)
Cost of hiring lawyers to destroy morale of labor force for 1 Year: $ (insert $ here)
Laying of 200+ pilots, lowering their pay/QOL, then having them come back to cover Holiday flying, without anything in return: PRICELESS!!

 

[TAWS]

P.S I'll be passing it up ................... in case you had any doubts.

 

[W&BWiz]

Friend of mine called HR this morning and whoever he talked to told him that they were hoping to have everyone recalled by March. CRJ's must be a done deal. I am bypassing... no way on this planet am i going back to get shipped all over shinola over the holidays!