UA-Skywest CASS

[oldxfr8dog]

Sorry if this is old news, I tried a search with no luck.

A (quite snippy) UA gate agent told me today that only UA and Skywest pilots could sit in the cockpit JS on a UAX flight. Despite my companies participation in CASS and despite the fact that she saw my pic on the CASS website, I was out of luck. I told her I didn't understand why a CASS approved pilot could ride on UA or Skywest but not on a Skywest airplane operating as UA X. She told me that was the way it was and if I didn't understand, it was my problem. And "the flight was overbooked". Then she turned away. I lucked out and got a cabin seat, but what's the story?
The Skywest crew, cool as usual, was puzzled and annoyed when I told them about it.
Any experts out there?

 

[Popeye0537]

Typical gate "know it all" agent.

Your CASS, you sit up front.

 

[Dutch]

At AE we were advised that UAX outstations would no longer be supporting CASS. Something to do with with UAL not wanting to pay the cost of maintaining the computers (BS).

 

[BlackPilot628]

You should have been able to sit in the jumpseat because you're a UAL pilot. If you're not a UAL or UAX pilot you can't sit up front because SKW is not in the CASS system. I thought they were until about 2 weeks ago when there was a SKW pilot trying to catch a ride home on UsAir out of ORD. I had the jumpseat already, but there are 2 on the A319 and explained that to the SKW pilot. That's when he told me they were not in CASS yet.

 

[Illini75]

WRONG. Another mis-informed person. Skywest is CASS

 

[Booker]

And can someone in the UA system clarify: As long as the gate computer can pull up your photo, can you still CASS-jumpseat on a UAX flight, or is there now a system-wide prohibition on UAX CASS because "some" computers can't display photos? Thanks!

 

[BlackPilot628]

WRONG. Another mis-informed person. Skywest is CASS

That is what I thought; but who am I to tell a SKW pilot that they're in CASS. He said, they were not and he didn't get on.

 

[Morning Wood]

SkyWest is CASS. The problem is with some of the stations handled by United (OAK and LAS that I know of) are not able to do the photos. Or I should say that the day that photo CASS was supposed to be turned on, they weren't. I don't know if they are now or not.

 

[Ralgha]

That is what I thought; but who am I to tell a SKW pilot that they're in CASS. He said, they were not and he didn't get on.

That pilot is a moron, we are most definately in CASS, and have been for quite some time.

 

[rtmcfi]

That pilot is a moron, we are most definately in CASS, and have been for quite some time.

Most likely a new hire. Perhaps his passport was still being processed....

 

[gooseman13]

A related question...can a UAX pilot who is not in CASS sit jumpseat on a UA/UAX flight not operated by the airline he works for?

ex. Can a Colgan pilot fly in a Mesa jumpseat?

 

[bmpilot2003]

Sorry if this is old news, I tried a search with no luck.

A (quite snippy) UA gate agent told me today that only UA and Skywest pilots could sit in the cockpit JS on a UAX flight. Despite my companies participation in CASS and despite the fact that she saw my pic on the CASS website, I was out of luck. I told her I didn't understand why a CASS approved pilot could ride on UA or Skywest but not on a Skywest airplane operating as UA X. She told me that was the way it was and if I didn't understand, it was my problem. And "the flight was overbooked". Then she turned away. I lucked out and got a cabin seat, but what's the story?
The Skywest crew, cool as usual, was puzzled and annoyed when I told them about it.
Any experts out there?

You are better off asking your jumpseat chairman, than posting it on here.

 

[murano]

I like it when you get gate agents that don't even know what CASS is. Ever had that happen to you?

 

[Fred Rogers]

I like it when you get gate agents that don't even know what CASS is. Ever had that happen to you?

YES. It is really annoying. What do you mean you live in Orlando? We are in Chicago. Why are you here??? I don't get it.. are you on vacation??

 

[viper548]

A month or two ago the SkyWest jumpseat coordinator send out a message saying that there are about a dozen SkyWest outstations that can not support CASS. Due to some new TSA rule at these stations even SkyWest pilots can not ride the actual on SkyWest aircraft.

 

[viper548]

I deleted the email but here is part of it I posted in a different thread.

All pilots will be restricted from cockpit access on all United, United Express flights [including SkyWest] at non CASS stations. I believe these stations are included, but not limited to: ACV,BNA,ASE,BZN,CPR,EGE,FAR,FWA,GJT,GTF,GUC,HDN,IY K,JAC,LAN,MFR,MOD,MSO,OXR,RAP,RDM,SBA,SEA,SFO, SGU



If you see your pic show up and the station has CASS, talk to the captain. Gate agents rarely know what the rules really are.