UAL Resignations?

[TheGuat]

From Skynetlite:
Junior Pilot to Receive Recall Offer: https://united.intranet.ual.com/skynetlite/images/clearpixel.gifSeniority #: 8287https://united.intranet.ual.com/skynetlite/images/clearpixel.gifHire Date: 09/10/2000Pilots Exercising Bypass Rights: 752

There are 8655 pilots on the seniority list.
So, to break it down, you've got 368 pilots who have yet to be recalled and 752 who have exercised their right to bypass.

I'm on bypass; I will probably accept a Feb class date and immediately go on military leave. There are a LOT of UAL pilots on military leave. How many of the ones on mil leave return is unknown.
There are also resignations of pilots currently on property, but I'd guess that it's no more than 50/yr (total WAG based on UAL ALPA and other message boards).

700 resignations is possible if it includes all of the pilots on furlough who sent in resignation letters to get hired at other companies, such as FedEx. For the most part, United hasn't honored furloughees' resignation letters - ie, they're still on the seniority list. I know of at a few UAL furloughees who put in resignation letters and are currently on bypass.

As for me, I'm almost 46 and will be on military leave until I'm 51. I plan on returning to United for 9 years. PLEASE don't change the retirement age; 9 more years at United will be more than enough for me.

So, you are not allowed to quit united? They must be arrogant enough as a company to think that no person would ever want to "quit" united.

 

[BiffF15]

Guat,
There is a little more to it than that. Historically ALPA at all the carriers have accepted resignations at all times, however the rules change a little during furlough periods. What UAL is doing, and others have done, is receiving the letter of resignation (LOR) and not executing on it. Once a person turns down his or her recall then the carrier executes on the LOR. It basically gives the furloughed pilot the max amount of options.

 

[Midge]

Biff & Andy:

Thanks for the intelligent responses. My bud has already submitted his resignation (withouth losing lots of sleep over it). United was always his dream carrier, and I can't blame him. I'm flyin 121 supplemental and am furloughed from another legacy! I'm still wondering what I will do when recalled!
I just get sick and tired of the arrogant/smarta$$ replies like those of mryflyer!
Good luck to you guys, and if mry is one of your pilots, God help all of you!

Midge

 

[Pancho747]

Midge, I was furloughed from AA (TWA) and had a job offer from a cargo carrier that required me to resign from AA in order to be hired.

A person of significant power at AA explained it to me like this. When you are an active employee, you can resign anytime. When you are on furlough, the Company has a contractual obligation to recall you as specified in the CBA. Unless there is a specific provision in the CBA which allows you to remove yourself from the recall list, the Company MUST recall you in the manner specified in the CBA.

BTW, I flew a CLE-LAX trip back in June and had Ron Jeremy on my flight.

 

[Andy]

I just get sick and tired of the arrogant/smarta$$ replies like those of mryflyer!
Good luck to you guys, and if mry is one of your pilots, God help all of you!

Midge

Dude, pilots and smarta$$ answers go together like, uh, pilots and booze/women/fast cars. ... just part of the personality. I'm definitely guilty of posting many smarta$$ answers on this and other boards.
Just look at TheGuat's smarta$$ response to my post. I'm assuming that he knew exactly what I meant, but I definitely phrased it poorly. Or he's dumber than a doorknob; take your pick. Maybe he's that way because he has to wear a brown uniform and he only has conversations with boxes. :laugh:
Damm; there I go, being a smarta$$ again. :beer:

 

[GogglesPisano]

Guat is a flamebaiter. He works for UPS in the same way "SuperKooter" works for CAL: Vicariously through his Microsoft Flight Simulator while wearing a Sporty's Pilot uniform with a copy of "How to Act like an Airline Pilot" and a tube of Vaseline beside him.

Good luck to UAL pilots. I think Tilton is desperate for a merger - but only USAir is on the same wavelength at this point.

 

[Andy]

Good luck to UAL pilots. I think Tilton is desperate for a merger - but only USAir is on the same wavelength at this point.

I wouldn't say desperate; if he wants to, he could cobble together a merger very quickly. He's looking for the right merger in order to 'maximize shareholder value.' That's Wall Street-speak for 'airline employees, BOHICA; no lube.'

I don't know if UAL will merge this time around; the track record over the last 10 years is pulling out twice (AmWest & USAirways) before ejaculation. It's funny that the merged combination of those two companies looks like the only one interested in merging with UAL this time around.

 

[G4G5]

AA has the same resignation clause that UAL has. If you are furloughed they will not honor your resignation.

UNLESS, you transfer your 401K retirement out of their plan. If you resign and take all of your retirement with you, then you are officially out at AA.