zero/zero landing (w/o autoland) ?

[jsoceanlord]

i was in ce 207 ground school in alaska and the chief pilot told us;

"..............as sure as i'm sitting here...............someday you'll have to land in a white out...............if you do like i say, you'll live...........if you don't ....................you won't...............".

i think his technique was you fly needles down to runway with a 500 fpm descent and then track the localizer as you roll out. (don't try this at home kids).

 

[ibaflyer]

While I was doing my IFR checkride, the examiner showed me how to do what he called and emergency ILS when weather was below miminiums and I have exhausted my fuel.

You fly the needles like normal and when you arrive at the DH, you continue on down watching the Glide Slope needle. When the Glide Slope drops off the bottom of the instrument, (full deflection) you arrest the decent, then you start looking up for the lights and the runway.

He made me do one of these during my check ride just to show me that it could be done. I guess my instructor was correct when he said that the examiner "will not finish the checkride until he fulfills the need to teach you something on the checkride".

It worked.....

 

[Pilotadjuster]

0-0

My examiner covered that in my Inst check ride as well; giving me the situation that I had painted myself into a corner and HAD to get on the ground or run out of fuel between airports (in Utah, not a comforting thought...). Correct answer was to follow the ILS all the way down as you said; worry about the FAA after you climb out of the a/c!

Would like to have flown one like that, but instead he had me fly the last ILS, last approach, with about 1/4 throttle available to simulate an iced-up approach. Worked pretty well in a C-177, just made the numbers...

 

[furloboy]

The best GCA controller in the world (no kidding) works at Bodo International, Norway, north of the Arctic Circle. Talked four of us Hornets down in zero/zero:

"Alright m'laddy (he trained in Scotland), you'll never make it down with that rrrrraaate of descent...give me a little left wing down..wings level...that's rrright lad...looking good, you should see the rrrrunway, in just a wee bit...BUMP."

Swear to God. I love that man. Snow on the runway was so thick that all of us stopped prior to midfield, with no braking.

 

[ProLine4]

ILS flightcheck

i was in ce 207 ground school in alaska and the chief pilot told us;

"..............as sure as i'm sitting here...............someday you'll have to land in a white out...............if you do like i say, you'll live...........if you don't ....................you won't...............".

i think his technique was you fly needles down to runway with a 500 fpm descent and then track the localizer as you roll out. (don't try this at home kids).

I remember reading in some publication that all standard Cat 1 ILS glideslopes are calibrated/flightchecked to 100 AGL regardless of the published DA. Plus I've heard Flightcheck and their BE200 on twr before saying "we're going all the way down below DA and then will fly a low apch." So even with just Cat 1 mins, the glideslope should give you reasonably accurate info to the 100 ft point. After that, I've heard the same thing as ibaflyer, just reduce your descent rate and pitch for the level flight attitude. Of course the best thing would be to visit your local Cat 2/3 runway and worry about the FAA later.