Yahoo Featured Headlines regarding travel myths!..Discuss

[USC328]

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There is an article written by Forbestraveler.com discussing 5 travel myths. 2 are directly related to aviation. Please read and I'd love to hear everyone's comments. I'm so frustrated with what the media feeds to the pax and what we and our FAs then have to deal with onboard the aircraft.

2 topics are:

Electronic devices:
Pretty much telling pax they will not be violating an FAR, but will get in trouble for interfering with a crewmember. I'd like you to reference 91.21.

Recirculated cabin air:
Telling pax it cost money, airlines elect to recirculate less air to save money.

Please read and discuss. I'm sure the "almighty" FI would have some good comments.

 

[11thHour]

http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests...MtMjAwOC0wMy0xNARfUwMyNzE2MTQ5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODE-

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Recirculated cabin air:
Telling pax it cost money, airlines elect to recirculate less air to save money.

Please read and discuss. I'm sure the "almighty" FI would have some good comments.

I laughed when I saw that one. A while back, a deplaning passenger literally yelled up to us in the cockpit on the erj on his way out that we [naughty words] should be more concerned with passenger comfort than saving gas and should make sure to turn the A/C on next time. It surprised us both as the packs were working, and the F/A never mentioned temp problems, but on the erj it's usually warmer in back than in front near the door anyway. Well, he was clearly upset, and we just both looked at each other wondering where he got that idea that we were keeping the a/c off to save fuel.

Well, I guess if it's written on the internet, it must be true! Thanks yahoo!

 

[finnjl]

I have spent a lot of time in the back of the erj and it is very hot back there. Fortunately I was in uniform and asked the flight attendant to call up front and ask to turn the temp down. Do they ever tell you guys why it is so hot in the back of that plane during ground school?

It is interesting when you hear things from the media that you are somewhat an expert in and they are usually very wrong. Now, the things the media reports on that I am not an expert in I always wonder how inaccurate the information is. I usually assume they get it about 50% correct.

I do know for a fact blackberrys interfere with the radios pretty good.

 

[Alchemy]

The problem with the ERJ is that pack 1 is 80% responsible for the cockpit and 20% responsile for the cabin. Pack 2 is 100% dedicated to the cabin.

Since the F/A sits in her jumpseat right behind the cockpit he or she gets the 100% from pack 2 plus a good chunk of the cooling power of pack 1. They're always cold up there, so they jack up the temp and end up smothering the pax in the back if they don't know what they're doing.

The problem is worse during extended fight idle descents. I can only assume that the packs can't keep the cabin cool in these scenarios beecuse of a lack of bleed air. Sometimes I'll manually select full cold from the cockpit if I know I'm going to making an extended descent from the mid 30's at idle.

I'm no engineer though, and it really never has been explained to me by the traiing dept. Neither has the sweaty jock strap smell that permeates the cockpit on descents.

The ERJ has cabin temp indications in the cockpit but they're pretty unreliable. My best advice is to please tell the flight attendant whenever the temp gets uncomfortable and have him or her call the flight deck if they say they're already on full cold. I really appreciate it when the F/A tells us about any temperature problems. We are able to cool it down a good bit quicker than the F/A's controls alone.

 

[ifly4food]

The problem with the ERJ is that pack 1 is 80% responsible for the cockpit and 20% responsile for the cabin. Pack 2 is 100% dedicated to the cabin.

Since the F/A sits in her jumpseat right behind the cockpit he or she gets the 100% from pack 2 plus a good chunk of the cooling power of pack 1. They're always cold up there, so they jack up the temp and end up smothering the pax in the back if they don't know what they're doing.

Ironically (or not) this is same setup as the Brasilia had. The solution, of course, is to disable her control, but tell her she still "has it". This keeps everyone happy.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Since the F/A sits in her jumpseat right behind the cockpit he or she gets the 100% from pack 2 plus a good chunk of the cooling power of pack 1.

Well no wonder the pax are pi$$ed off! That F/A is getting more than 100% of her air! She's stealin' someone else's air!

Read it like "He hates these cans!"

On the Saab, I liked to run with one recirc off. It'd take it from Iron Maiden dB to Motorhead dB up in the cockpit.

 

[fly4surf]

I had a lady pass me a note while boarding stating a medical condition required a oxygen level similar to Denver and would I please not try to save money on THIS flight and keep the oxygen on!
It still makes me laugh years later.
How many times have planes crashed because everyone passed out due to the company saving money turning off the O2?
HA, Kills me!

 

[Max Q]

Who was the captain that had the "dummy" velcro/suction cup thermostat installed next to the F/A's jumpseat before she boarded?

"...and just to give you a heads up, the cabin t-stat was relocated to the F/A control panel so she's all yours."

-Brett

 

[Erlanger]

Yahoo Featured Headlines regarding travel myths!..Discuss

It really bugs me when someone posts something and they say, "Discuss". It's like pilots that say, "with you" on the radio. That's my pet peeve for the day...until tomorrow. Discuss!

 

[ifly4food]

The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire... Discuss!

 

[joe_pilot]

I like eggs

 

[Erlanger]

I like eggs

Is that green eggs and ham?

 

[SSDD]

A few years ago Oprah did a show on how the airlines were saving money by using recirculated air, etc., so a couple of days later, this lady is making a big fuzz at the gate talking about how she has a medical condition, and requires additional oxygen, and we need to have all the "air conditioners" on. So the gate agent called me to come out to the gate, and talk to this lady.

I listened to her, and she repeated the same stuff to me, so I asked her point blank: Do you require extra oxygen? Yes. Do you have a note from your doctor saying you can travel under these conditions? No. So I said, I'm sorry, but without your doctor's o.k. we can't take you. We can not provide you with additional oxygen, except in an emergency. Maybe you can call your doctor and get a note from him.

You should have seen her face!!!!!!!!

She then tried to change her story, and said how she'd seen it on Oprah. But I held my ground, and told the agent to deny her boarding based on her admitted medical condition. Not what I like to do, but once she said it was a medical requirement, I had no choice.

 

[USC328]

Awww, gotta love flight info. I knew what I was getting into when I posted. Sorry to offend those of you with the "discuss" comment. I'll be the first to admit, my grammar is not perfect, my spelling can be off etc. I didn't even think of how "discuss" might be someone's pet peeve. If I knew how to take that off, I would, out of respect for your pet peeves.

My only intentions of this thread are to hear opinions and stories from others that may have encountered pax that read these false reports and how they dealt with them. Someday, I'd like to just forget KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) when encountering these know it all pax and bore them with all the nitty gritty details. I found myself in the MKE boarding area last week trying to explain/educate pax on the reasoning behind the MKE airport shutdown (snow removal, NWA airplane sliding off 1L). Once you take the time to talk to them, explain the situation, and try to educate them, I've experienced that they are more pleasant to deal with. (Oh and letting them off the airplane during the delay REALLY helps too

Everyone got off the airplane in EWR 10 hours late after a fuel diversion to AVP (1.5hr enroute holding) and were rather pleasant as long as we kept them informed.

I just wish the media wouldn't feed them these lies ahead of time about these different topics. Where do they get their info? Oh well, life goes on.

 

[CA1900]

Once you take the time to talk to them, explain the situation, and try to educate them, I've experienced that they are more pleasant to deal with.

Yeah, most of the time that works. Wish you could have heard the line of expletives that some jackass let out on me when I explained to our group at the boarding area that we probably weren't going to get into Rutland, VT, due to the low weather. (It was 100-1/8, and they only have a LOC approach.)

The guy just jumped up and started screaming at me! "This is f---ing ridiculous! F---ing Colgan never left me stranded like this! Those guys knew what the f--- they were doing! Your problem is that you're flying the approach wrong. You're not going low enough!"

I "calmly" explained to him a few things:

1. Not doing what Colgan does doesn't bother me in the slightest.
2. The reason the minimums are where they are is because there are mountains all around. I don't intend to hit one.
3. I don't bust minimums and alter approaches because somebody else has, thus far, gotten away with it. There are plane-shaped stains all over hillsides made by guys who thought they knew better.
4. If you disagree with my decision, you're free to get your own airplane. The rest of us will be safely on the ground in Albany while we see you on the news.

The look on his (by then bright red) face was just priceless. :laugh:

 

[30West]

I like eggs

I love lamp.

 

[I_Love_Lamp]

You called?

 

[Mickey]

Just send a note to "[email protected]"
Hopefully we can enlighten them. About the myth of their myth.

 

[knewhigher]

We were under a delay going from IAH to SDF because SDF had freezing rain and severe icing. The gate agent asked the captain to make the announcment at the gate because the pax were getting more and more restless and she thought they'd calm down if the news came from us. Some jackass in the had the audacity to scream "ITS JUST RAIN!!!" while holding up his phone for everyone to see.

 

[COOPERVANE]

why do dogs have black lips?