Xo Jet ???

[hyflyin]

I guess you never know... til it happens.

I'm watching you cherry, waiting to "call you out" again.

:beer:

 

[cherry20's]

What are you going to "call me out" on again? What was the first thing, remind me.

Capt Dad, no we don't have any kind of union (and lets not start this discussion again please!). If your previous post was a question, you should have worded it differently. It read like a smart @ss statement, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt... If you want serious info on XOJET, just PM me. Thats a lot easier I have found.

 

[Pervis]

Cherry, you'd have to be a complete idiot not knowing who has a union, in house or otherwise, while working for a frac. Any frac. There is no doubt how he meant it. Dad, just apologize for the comment. Don't bury yourself with more BS and learn some sense of humility.

 

[cherry20's]

Haha, well, your probably right... I was giving him too much credit evidently. LOL

 

[FLYnMONKEYS]

Just curious if any of the laid off pilots filed wrongful termination lawsuits?

 

[OHGOON]

Seems like many here like to pick on Dad. Not sure what is so terrible in what he said. XOJET laid off pilots, they did not furlough. The layoffs were not in reverse seniority. Seems to me his point is well taken; If there was a union involved this situation would be different. At the very least folks who already worked the controls would not be subjected to the full hiring process again when their time comes. All in all, Dad pointed out the merely obvious!

Why all the anti union hatred even among NetJets guys. Your union has made NJ a career destination which is a first among anything other than Majors and a select few corporate jobs. If you really are against unions then quit and make room for us who love to have all the union has to offer.

 

[gunfyter]

Not against unions.

And I was here on this board when (a few) people from Options and Flexjet and CS ... harassed Execjet people while we were struggling to get the 2005 contract that changed things for us.

I just think there is no need to return that treatment to others,,,,

 

[o2bflyn]

Just curious if any of the laid off pilots filed wrongful termination lawsuits?

You would have an impossible time getting that to work out. Especially in this economy. When you work for "at will" employment, you can leave for any reason and they can terminate you for just about any legal reason. This economy definetly gives them a legal reason to terminate. How they decide who to terminate is really up to them so long as they do not base it on gender, race, age, etc...

 

[Flightbag]

Is this just an XOJet pilot bashing thread, or there some actual XOJet pilots commenting?

I'm curious. Is the info on APC accurate?

Occasionally I get asked questions about them and I'd like to have the straight scoop.

Thanks

F

 

[X-rated]

Is this just an XOJet pilot bashing thread, or there some actual XOJet pilots commenting?

I'm curious. Is the info on APC accurate?

Occasionally I get asked questions about them and I'd like to have the straight scoop.

Thanks

F

I don't think there is that much bashing going on in this thread.

I think the APC site is fairly accurate except they have the schedule wrong. We work either 8 on 6 off, or 15 on 13 off.

If you have specific questions just ask. There are plenty of XOJET pilots on this board who are happy to answer questions.

 

[Flex-ible]

You would have an impossible time getting that to work out. Especially in this economy. When you work for "at will" employment, you can leave for any reason and they can terminate you for just about any legal reason. This economy definetly gives them a legal reason to terminate. How they decide who to terminate is really up to them so long as they do not base it on gender, race, age, etc...

Wow, an intelligent well-written and accurate response without any name-calling.

Are you sure you belong here?

 

[Flightbag]

I think the APC site is fairly accurate except they have the schedule wrong. We work either 8 on 6 off, or 15 on 13 off.

If you have specific questions just ask. There are plenty of XOJET pilots on this board who are happy to answer questions.

Thanks for the info.

What about vacation and sick leave and insurance?

Thanks again.

F

 

[993_Pilot]

. . . I do know the next class we have is going to be new Challenger 300 guys that have time in type, then new hires for the Challenger that are already in the pool, then recall pilots that have to go through the whole interview process again, then new hires off the street...

If this is true, then . . .

Seems like many here like to pick on Dad. Not sure what is so terrible in what he said. XOJET laid off pilots, they did not furlough. The layoffs were not in reverse seniority. Seems to me his point is well taken; If there was a union involved this situation would be different. At the very least folks who already worked the controls would not be subjected to the full hiring process again when their time comes. All in all, Dad pointed out the merely obvious! . . .

. . . I would have to agree.

It is hard for me to believe that a company would hire "out of the pool" before recalling pilots that were laid off. You guys have no protections, and I think Dad's comments were right on, in this case.

 

[skiandsurf]

If this is true, then . . .



. . . I would have to agree.

It is hard for me to believe that a company would hire "out of the pool" before recalling pilots that were laid off. You guys have no protections, and I think Dad's comments were right on, in this case.

Problem is, they werent "laid-off", they were FIRED. They have to re-apply if they want to return.

 

[X-rated]

Thanks for the info.

What about vacation and sick leave and insurance?

Thanks again.

F

Vacation: 1 week (8 days) after 1 year, Two weeks (15 days) after 5 years.

Sick Time: Yes, but I can't quote the exact policy. I know I recently found out I had 10 days accrued. I'll look into it and get back to you.

Insurance: Yes, Medical, Dental, and Vision as well as Short and Long Term Disability. Medical insurance used to be free, but now requires a small employee contribution. If you want specifics, I'll have to look into that too.

 

[cherry20's]

If this is true, then . . .



. . . I would have to agree.

It is hard for me to believe that a company would hire "out of the pool" before recalling pilots that were laid off. You guys have no protections, and I think Dad's comments were right on, in this case.

The order in which people are hired or rehired is always subject to change as well. You never know what is going to happen in this industry...

 

[993_Pilot]

Problem is, they werent "laid-off", they were FIRED. They have to re-apply if they want to return.

More to my point then.

...You never know what is going to happen in this industry...

True. . . to an extent.

The order in which people are hired or rehired is always subject to change as well. ...

A CBA puts a system in place to deal with these and other types of eventualities. I bet the guys/gals are on the street aren't too happy with the "at will" system right now.

Anyways, I didn't really want to hijack this thread and make this about union vs. Non-union, lest B19 rear his ugly head. I simply wanted to back up Captain Dad's comments, because although they could have been delivered in a better way, he made a very valid point that several attacked him for. Just my 2 cents . . . carry on.

 

[Flightbag]

Vacation: 1 week (8 days) after 1 year, Two weeks (15 days) after 5 years.

Sick Time: Yes, but I can't quote the exact policy. I know I recently found out I had 10 days accrued. I'll look into it and get back to you.

Insurance: Yes, Medical, Dental, and Vision as well as Short and Long Term Disability. Medical insurance used to be free, but now requires a small employee contribution. If you want specifics, I'll have to look into that too.

Thanks again for the info. Now I can give accurate answers. Sounds like XOJet is a decent place to work.

Oh ya, except for that other little matter.

F