XJ street captains

[submachXJ]

Latest vacancy out 9 dtw saab captains are new hires going to class nov 12.

 

[SEVEN]

Seatlocks to be released or reduced shortly.

 

[submachXJ]

Seatlocks to be released or reduced shortly.

My contract uderstanding one for one the saab seatlocks are released now. Not for the jet...yet. 450 is the bottom now for the 200 and 500 roughly for the 900. Seat locks are released one for one in lieu of hiring street captains.

 

[flap operator]

If seatlocks are relased for saab captains, then why did the 200 and 900 go so junior? I know that I have my bid set up for the jets in MSP and I am senior to both those jr 200 and 900 guys.

Will we see this award get revised 6 times too?

FO

 

[WMUSIGPI]

There were only 4 or 5 pilots seatlocked as FO for jumping from Saab to CRJ FO. They would be able to get out of the seat lock to go to the Saab as captain. This does nothing to release any Saab captains from their locks to allow them to bid 200 or 900 captain. Though I have to believe that may not be very far off at this point.

 

[XJohXJ]

There are a few hundred new hires to move through before hitting street captain in the jets.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Most of the new hires don't have the time and/or age to upgrade yet.

 

[arthompson]

PCL is experiencing that problem too. Well and the bad wages and.....yeah you know......

 

[Flybet3]

Latest vacancy out 9 dtw saab captains are new hires going to class nov 12.

Are they running new hire classes every two weeks or every week? Just curious cuz i thought they were going to have a class on november 5th and the 19th

 

[Whataboutbob]

Are they running new hire classes every two weeks or every week? Just curious cuz i thought they were going to have a class on november 5th and the 19th

Yeah, its confusing but I think new hires start Indoc on the 5th and 19th with Captains starting class a week later, so in theory they are starting new hire classes every two weeks.

 

[SEVEN]

There are a few hundred new hires to move through before hitting street captain in the jets.

Are there any requirments for crj900 capt. other than ATP mins/1500 tt. I know with the Avro it was around 4000 tt for capt. I'm surprised that the insurance companies allow a 900 capt. with only 1500 tt.

 

[fowingman]

seat lock doensn't get dropped for the prop, only for the jet, besides something tells me restifo is going to play hard ball with the seatlocks

 

[XJohXJ]

Are there any requirments for crj900 capt. other than ATP mins/1500 tt. I know with the Avro it was around 4000 tt for capt. I'm surprised that the insurance companies allow a 900 capt. with only 1500 tt.

I haven't seen any mins published anywhere, so I'm working on the assumption that it's ATP mins like any other upgrade.

 

[Flybet3]

Are there any requirments for crj900 capt. other than ATP mins/1500 tt. I know with the Avro it was around 4000 tt for capt. I'm surprised that the insurance companies allow a 900 capt. with only 1500 tt.

I really doubt it man. Most companies want betweet 2500TT to 3500 TT for the jet positions. But then again I have been surprised before. But I'm still a bit confused about something, are they actually hiring street captains for the CRJs? I know there's the seat lock issue but I thought I read somewhere that they had already hired two guys off the street for the CRJ?

 

[Limeyflyer]

I thought I read somewhere that they had already hired two guys off the street for the CRJ?

Hired as CRJ sim instructors with crj capt pay, so I hear.

 

[Flybet3]

Hired as CRJ sim instructors with crj capt pay, so I hear.

That's some good pay.

 

[xjgearbtch]

No street ca's on the CRJ, not in the training dept. There are ground instructors hired but they are management. They don't get to fly the line or even get a senority number for two years.

 

[Limeyflyer]

No street ca's on the CRJ, not in the training dept. There are ground instructors hired but they are management. They don't get to fly the line or even get a senority number for two years.

Thanks for clearing up the rumors

 

[Flybet3]

No street ca's on the CRJ, not in the training dept. There are ground instructors hired but they are management. They don't get to fly the line or even get a senority number for two years.

Alrighty then. Thanks for the info. There's nothing worst than assumptions or rumos. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[LabMonkey76]

No street ca's on the CRJ, not in the training dept. There are ground instructors hired but they are management. They don't get to fly the line or even get a senority number for two years.

Where did you get that information?

 

[submachXJ]

If seatlocks are relased for saab captains, then why did the 200 and 900 go so junior? I know that I have my bid set up for the jets in MSP and I am senior to both those jr 200 and 900 guys.

Will we see this award get revised 6 times too?

FO

Just to clarify on my previous post the locks are released one for one bidding to saab captain not from saab captain to something else. although that could change soon if the jet continues to go jr.

 

[WTF-Over]

The company has NO incentive to release any seat lock. You know how much they save by hiring street capt's at first year capt pay vs. 4th or 5th year pay for someone internal to upgrade.
The company has no insentive to release the locks until there are no qualified people left to hire off the street.

 

[flap operator]

Submach - ok, now it makes sense. I was wondering where you were going with your post. Obviously, with street captains starting on the 19th, all seatlocked FOs are no longer seatlocked.

WTF - actually, the company does have an incentive. It's called the contract. It clearly states that the seatlocks will be removed on a one for one basis to prevent the hiring of street captains. If jet vacancies are looking like they will go unfilled, they'll release the locked saab captains (tons of them) so that no street captain flies the jets. But you're right, its far cheaper to have a guy at 1st year pay than those of us on 7+ pay.


FO

 

[MEL'ed]

Knowing the street CAs will be on reserve, how many are typically on rsv in DTW and MEM?

 

[sopdan]

There was never a seat lock for an FO to CA move. FO's are seat locked for 2 years before they can bid for FO on different equipment.

 

[XJohXJ]

Actually, there were a few FO's who bid over to jet FO, from Saab FO (they weren't displaced there) and were seat locked there. Those FO's will now be eligible to bid for Saab Captain.

 

[CubanSmoker]

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[CubanSmoker]

No street ca's on the CRJ, not in the training dept. There are ground instructors hired but they are management. They don't get to fly the line or even get a senority number for two years.

Close. The guys they hired for ground instruction on the CRJ are NOT management. They are employees of the training department out of college - former CFI's. You are correct however that they can't get a seniority number for 2 years from their DOH.

There are also ground instructors that have come from the line as FTI's on the CRJ. They are "contract" pilots with experience on the aircraft (here at XJ not elsewhere) that are under the ALPA contract. At some point, they will return to the line, LCA, or sim instruct if the training department ever catches up enough to let them return.