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Sphrynxlla

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What is the upgrade time at express Jet? And what about the average time on reserve?

Does anyone know why they lowered minimums to 600? It doesnt seem like the majority of guys with 600 hours and 100 multi are experienced enough to fly rjs... im sure there are some who are ready but probably not the majority. What do the captains think about this?
 
i know that one big problem that expressjet has with the new hires is that it sounds like its the first time they have ever been on the radio on IOE. the minimums are so low because who in their right mind with more experience would go into a job that you pay to work.
 
No you don't pay to work at X-Jet! However they have to lower the mins because who in their right minds would want to work for $17,500/yr. Next year only goes up to $26K, and then $30K, then $31.5K, and possibly by late year 4 you can expect to upgrade and make $50K. I have no idea why they can't find enough qualified applicants.
 
i think im going to get a job outside the field. make it a hobby and remember why growing up i always wanted to do this when i grew up. it was fun....
 
Sphrynxlla said:
What is the upgrade time at express Jet? And what about the average time on reserve?

Does anyone know why they lowered minimums to 600? It doesnt seem like the majority of guys with 600 hours and 100 multi are experienced enough to fly rjs... im sure there are some who are ready but probably not the majority. What do the captains think about this?
To answer your questions, pilots ugrading today have been here about 4.5 years. Nobody knows how long in will take a new-hire to upgrade, but I would guess that it will be longer than the current 4.5 years.

The other posters are correct on why the mins were lowered to 600 tt. Starting pay is $17, 600. Over 60% of new hires have required additional training. It has been entertaining to listen to some of the stories from the checkairmen who have been doing IOE recently.:eek:
 
Captains have just gotten use to having FO's with 2000+ hours in the jet rather than these new pilots with 20 hours. :)
 
Are they getting a new contract?
 
They Lowered their minimums because.....

They need to hit their quota of women to be hired. Lets figure this out.....it is getting towards the end of the year. They must fulfill their quota in order to not get blasted by the 99 club. Sad but true!
 
Do people still want to work at the regionals with upgrades being 4 - 5yrs away?
I know these numbers are close but does any one know about the rest of the regionals.
X-jet 4yrs+
Mesaba 5yrs+
Trans States 3yrs+
What About
Skywest?
Comair
Air Wis.
ASA
Mesa
 
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flynlears13 said:
They need to hit their quota of women to be hired. Lets figure this out.....it is getting towards the end of the year. They must fulfill their quota in order to not get blasted by the 99 club. Sad but true!

Oh please. :rolleyes:
 
Originally Posted by flynlears13
They need to hit their quota of women to be hired. Lets figure this out.....it is getting towards the end of the year. They must fulfill their quota in order to not get blasted by the 99 club. Sad but true!


Lmao....not true! I have a couple of female friends that interviewed there and were not hired because they didn't meet all the "minimums" whether it be current multi time, flying job, whatever. They are hard on that, no matter what your gender is.
 
Rob M. said:
Do people still want to work at the regionals with upgrades being 4 - 5yrs away?
I know these numbers are close but does any one know about the rest of the regionals.
X-jet 4yrs+
Mesaba 5yrs+
Trans States 3yrs+
What About
Skywest?
Comair
Air Wis.
ASA
Mesa 1 month - 3.5 years depedning on equipment
Well, you can't very well go right to the majors can you? Ask someone who started in the 80s how it was. It's a cyclical cycle and we're at the bottom.
 
flynlears13 said:
They need to hit their quota of women to be hired. Lets figure this out.....it is getting towards the end of the year. They must fulfill their quota in order to not get blasted by the 99 club. Sad but true!
Uh..yeah...sure...whatever.
 
Call it lame? Why do most women get hired with less flight time then men?

Lets hit reality folks. I am sure that it is because they are better pilots?
 
Where are women getting hired with less time now a days? You're probably still carrying a chip on your shoulder in reference to the hiring by a few majors back in the 1990's or early 2000's. That should all be water under the bridge as the majors aren't hiring anymore. As for those that are hiring, regionals and nationals, please give a few examples of women getting hired with significantly less flight time.
 
flynlears13 said:
Lets hit reality folks. I am sure that it is because they are better pilots?
There were 4 women in my initial class.....also had the 4 highest TT in the class. Nice try, but your theory is about 10 years too late.






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This theory of women taking pilot slots is such bull. Even if women were hired at 500 hrs TT, women dont even make up 5% of the pilot work force.

I think the whole theory was probably started by people that fail the interview, then blame it on "quotas" .. they had to hire 3 more women or else! so they didnt hire me.

Its the craziest theory I've ever heard. I fly on airlines A LOT .. I've got 300,000 freq flyer miles in less than a year. I've never had a woman pilot. I rarely see women in the terminal. Actually, I had a woman captain on British Airways from ORD to LHR. Regardless, its so few, its nothing for you "manly men" to worry about them "poo little wemenfolkz" taking yer jerbs!

Sheesh .. get a life already and stop wasting bandwidth talking about quotas. Even if they did exist, even if all the women in aviation applied, they wouldn't fill more than a few percent of the avg ground school class at an airline.
 

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