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If he agreed to change the retirement age to age 65 in order to help those pilots who have, or will soon, lose their retirements?

I'm going on a personal trip, so I'll check when Iget back, but I've heard from a few die hard dems who would vote for President Bush if he changes the retirement age to 63 or 65.

What about you?

Calvin
 
I'm not a dem, but...

...my answer is no because there are bigger fish to fry than this issue.
 
Or similarly, would you vote for Bush if you knew he would again direct the NMB to not allow a major airline go to the 30 day cooling off period on his watch. No deadline = no bargaining power = no contract.

Pilots are ba$tard children of the polical process. We are kind of blue collar, kind of high paid professional. Dems help us get the big pay and the Republicans help us keep it every April 15th.
 
What scares me the most (besides nuclear war and Carnies) is that the terrorists have brought the war to our soil (Dems forget the original attack under the Masterbater in Chief) and they are still floating the most liberal ticket since McCarthy.
If you vote for a Democrat now you might as well send a check to Al Qeada and subscribe to Al Jezeera.
Sad truly, because I respect good Democrats like Lieberman (and a good Democrat in the FDR sense is hard to find these days). The party has been subverted (or perverted if you will) by a faction of U.S. hating, tree hugging, global socialists who think that a viable fetus (I say baby) is still a choice.
Cheers, Wil

PS, the age should be raised to 65 or we should be given a waiver to get our SS checks sooner. As a conservative I believe that SS is a good addition to retirement planning, not meant to support on it's own!! Should cover my bar tab (maybe).
 
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GoABX said:
Or similarly, would you vote for Bush if you knew he would again direct the NMB to not allow a major airline go to the 30 day cooling off period on his watch. No deadline = no bargaining power = no contract.

Pilots are ba$tard children of the polical process. We are kind of blue collar, kind of high paid professional. Dems help us get the big pay and the Republicans help us keep it every April 15th.[/QUO

Slick Willy himself stopped AA from going on strike.
 
I feel so much safer with bush at the helm.

Lets see - attack Iraq, a non-terror nation and create a breading ground for terrorists.

Spend Billions and increase our defecit to 600 billion dollars so we can help a bunch of crazys live in democracy when they aren't ready for it.

Ruin our international credibility.

Bush wants cabotage so foreign subsidied airlines can come over here and take our flying.

Almost up to 1000 of our troops killed why?????????

Bush is an idiot!!!!!! Bush is arrogant!!!!!!!! Bush can't think for himself!!!!!!! he only believes in big business and thinks they have the answers to everything.

After 9-11 we were a unified nation and the rest of the world was completely with us and supported us. Now the nation is divided and the rest of the world thinks we are a bunch of go it alone cowboys. Working with others is the grease that makes the world go round.

VOTE KERRY!!!!!!!
 
I would not vote for any candidate based on just a minor issue like this. As a matter of fact I don’t vote for political officials based on what they can do for me. I make my decision based on what is good for the United States.

This issue is something that any politician of either party could get passed if there was enough political pressure. The problem is that the pilot community is so small in the grand spectrum that it may be difficult to get a voice heard. Using the labor unions may not be effective as that forces all involved to take a side and makes it partisan immediately.



Mark
 
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Let's see, I can choose between a former alcoholic (and who knows what else) who's dad bought him a baseball team and who appears not to think to clearly (maybe the alcohol screwed his brain?).

Or, I can choose to vote for someone who has billions of dollars in his family due to a profitable ketcup company.

Just maybe both of them are out of touch with the common man?

NADER.
 
I would rather masterbate with a cheese grator and then take a bath in lemonade before I would vote for either of the major parties contestants.
 

  1. [*]I was referencing the original post about voting on a single issue, as the one mentioned.
Political party’s aside, I think that voting for a candidate based on one single issue like pilot retirement age is rather sophomoric.



By the way I am voting for Bush and the reasons are probably opposite of yours. I am not impressed with either candidate as both have silver spoons so far up there A$$ that they are out of touch with the common man.



Mark

 
Bush breaks labor and might allow us to work longer in order to make up some of our lost wages under his watch? I'll pass. To claim Bush is anything but absolutely opposed to organized labor, or workers rights in general, defies logic. I would think it would be obvious to anyone who made it through middle school.

But that isn't the reason I'm going to vote kerry. Those willing to sacrifice their lives in order to kill Americans have multiplied dramatically since Bush's unprecendented pr-emptive war which was based on deciet and half truths began. Iraq is now a breeding ground for terrorists while Osama roams free. Bush has not made us safer. He has increased our enemies, alienated our allies, focused on iraq instead of hunting down the world's most dangerous man, decimated the quality of life of the middle class, given unprecendented tax breaks to the country's millionaires during a time when we should all sacrifice to support our troops, and has cut funding to our nation's schools. Our military is stretched dangerously thin, our clean air and water protections threateaned, we have run the biggest deficit in the history of our country, etc, etc.

The values and principles which have made our country great and respected around the world have been discarded and warped under the current administration. Kerry is serious and boreing compared to Bush. I would rather drink a beer with Bush. But when it comes to running the most powerful country the world has ever seen Kerry is infinitely more qualified than Bush and I shudder to think what four more years of Bush will mean for the generations to come.
 
Organized labor has been so good to the airline industry. I just love my ALPA luggage tags that came with my MEC Chairman letter essentially apologizing for ALPA's endorsement of Kerry.

I'm with Vetteracer. I don't pick my candidates for what they can do for me. I vote for the man that will best serve our country. And frankly, I don't give a flying F*%$(# what the French of Germans think of America.

The only reason I wouldn't vote for Bush this year would be if he showed up to his convention in a pair of pink panties and pony tails. And even then I wouldn't vote for Kerry.
 
"I don't pick my candidates for what they can do for me. I vote for the man that will best serve our country. And frankly, I don't give a flying F*%$(# what the French of Germans think of America. "

That's exactly why you shouldn't vote for Bush. He is not serving our country well. He is not reducing terrorism or guiding our country in the right direction. I can think of a million reasons not to vote for Bush but I can't think of any to vote for him. I agree that we should not base our decisions on what the French or Germans think, but we should care very much when W continually makes poor choices and weakens our country.
 
I'd vote for GW only if both Kerry and Edwards were electrocuted on the convention stage and the delegates nominated Hillary Clinton to replace Kerry on the ticket.
 
"we should care very much when W continually makes poor choices and weakens our country"

Apparently you prefer the "strength" of our country during a period when we were chased from Somolia, lost embassies in two African countries, had assassination attempts against former Presidents in foreign lands, failed to respond to the near sinking of the USS Cole, launched "pre-emptive" wars into Haiti and Kosovo (with no obvious endgame plan since conflict continues in both places), and allowed a terrorist organization to plan an attack which eventually resulted in the deaths of 3000 Americans.

I spent 8 of the last 11 years getting shot at while flying "peace keeping" missions in a part of the world that has been breeding and supporting terrorists for decades. I've spent the last three killing terrorists in those same roach colonies in which they used to breed. And I've flown and worked with men from every continent joining our nation to get the job done (Even French and Germans when it suited their nations' economic objectives). I've served in the military for every President since Ronald Reagan. I've seen our nation at its strongest and weakest.

I'm obviously voting for Bush in '04.
 

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