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Maybe I'm the only poor bastard on this forum, but I think paying 1K for a headset is a little over the top. Opinions???
 
Your hearing is worth a lot more than 1k...if you spend enough time in a loud airplane they are more than worth it.
 
yes

are you considering bose? i bought some lightspeeds (20G) last year for around 400 and i couldnt be happier. very light, comfy for long trips and ANR is awsome!!!! i highly recommend lighspeeds
 
I own both a Bose and a LightSpeed. The LightSpeed is slightly more comfortable but the noise cancelling in the Bose greatly superior. But then again, I got the Bose for free. I'm not sure if I'd spend $1k on them. Fortunately I won't have to worry about buying another headset until I do the lightspeed and the Bose in, and that should be a while.

-Goose
 
I bought a cheap-ass headset from the flight school for around $130. It's not very comfortable, but I don't see any problem as far as clarity. I also find it pretty quiet, although the Cherokee isn't a particularly loud airplane. Regradless, I Just couldn't justify spending that kind of money on a headset.......
 
It's the walking around the ramp that is killing my hearing. I do wear ear plugs, but I notice my wife is always telling me to turn the tv down.
 
Vandal said:
Your hearing is worth a lot more than 1k...if you spend enough time in a loud airplane they are more than worth it.

Funny, someone who comments like this really doesn't understand the relationship between sound and how it causes damage to the ear. You don't need to spend that kind of money. Without going into depth, what you need is something that blocks the spectrum of harmonics that are conductive to ear damage. A basic Clark 10-30 will do the trick. Now as for blocking frequencies that relate to fatigue and such thats another topic. But your hearing can be protected just as well with a $200 headset as it could with a $1000 one.
 
Of course..... You only have 1 pair of ears ...


I have 3 products from bose, including the QuiteComforts 2 Head phones..and there amazing on how much outside sound they filer out.

Some people hate BOSE, yes expensive but, if i did not think there products where not worth the money, there is no way i would waste it.
 
I'd give ebay a try. I've had good luck purchasing some rather pricey items. The caveat is you have to research the seller's feedback. If the seller has any negative feedback read each and every one. Is the negative feedback from some idiot who misspells every other word and constructs sentences like a turd-heaving chimp?? How does the seller respond to any negative feedback? Does he lash out with insults or does he calmly explain his side of the story? If you do your homework and carefully research every headset you're seriously interested in you can walk away with a heckuva good deal. Yes, it's time consuming but in the long term your hearing is worth it. Once it deteriorates it's not going to come back. Take your time and keep a line in the water; you'll find a good deal on a good headset.

Good luck!!
 
Actually to be serious, I use 750's for their comfort and place one of those squissy ear plugs in the right ear for additional protection. Let me tell ya, never, never, never, fly a P-51 without a headset. Huh?

www.bdkingpress.com
 
When I upgraded to Saab captain, my boyfriend at the time bought me a set of the $1000 bose headsets. It was worth every penny of his money. But would I buy them myself? Probably not.

I did buy the QC2s as well as the outdoor landscape speakers. Bose makes good stuff. The aviation headsets are a little pricey.
 
Best $1,000 I ever spent was on a Bose X Aviation Headset. Still look new after 3,000 hrs and 5 years of use, great product support for the one time I had a problem (sent a loaner, fixed it free and sent me a $200+ quiet comfort headset for free). I can wear them for 10 hours and not feel like I have a vise on my head. I figure they have cost me about $0.17 per hour of use with no down time since I could sell them tomorrow for $500.

I would never use another headset except in a very quiet jet cockpit, where I would consider telex.
 
I was considering the bose but decided instead on the lightspeed 25xl's (refurbished). Honestly, the bose are much better but for 3x the cost (I spent $360 including shipping) it wasn't worth it to me. If I take a full-tim job flying a piston twin or turboprop I might just spring for them though. I fly in piston singles and twins and my old DC's are quiter in the single but in the twin the ANR wins hands down.

Keep in mind the ANR doesn't cancel out the "white noise" or wind noise - just the low end stuff coming mostly from the props and piston engines.

~wheelsup
 
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When flying GA airplanes/helicopters, I wear a DC headset and earplugs underneath. My hearing is sensitive enough that I can't wear JUST a headset....and I want it to stay that way! I have Bose X headsets, and I wouldn't spend $1k on them.....I just don't think they do enough more to protect my hearing than my 10yr old DC's and earplugs do.
 
FracCapt said:
When flying GA airplanes/helicopters, I wear a DC headset and earplugs underneath. .

I used to do that too - in singles it worked great but I found the low-end noise still came in through in the baron.

~wheelsup
 
wheelsup said:
Keep in mind the ANR doesn't cancel out the "white noise" or wind noise - just the low end stuff coming mostly from the props and piston engines.

My Bose takes out wind noise, but my LightSpeed doesn't. You ought to hear the difference.

-Goose
 
I pm'ed you. Get the telex 580, no batteries and anr!
 
I bought the Bose, and couldn't be happier with them. They do a great job of canceling noise but they really shine when you have to where a headset for an extended period of time. I bought them when flight instructing and continue to where them in the 328JET (very quiet compared to other RJ's). They are really light, they don't clamp your head, and you won't get the "sweaty ear" in the summer time. I highly recommend them for a professional pilot, but don't bother if you don't plan on flying a lot (unless of course you have money to burn).
 
As others have said, "what is your hearing worth?"

True, you can buy headsets for 1/3 the price that do almost as good a job, but nothing I've found compares to the comfort, quality, and effectiveness of the Bose headset.

After sitting in a cockpit for 13.2 hours in a single day, I can attest to the value of the more comfortable headset. (I hope I NEVER sit in a cockpit that long again however)
 
I have 3000 hours on my BOSE headset and I never regret laying out the money for them. They still bring 600-700$ on ebay so .17 per hour (including batteries) is not a bad price to pay for hearing and less fatigue.

I dont go to starbucks so if you figure the cost savings there (400$ a year) they are basically free to me.

A cool bonus is they work well in the CRJ.
 
Folks tend to figure that since the sound doesn't seem so loud, it's not doing damage, and that's just not the case. You can get less perceived sound by using a simple seat of foam EAR plugs...but you haven't really protected your hearing. More damage is done to your ears through the bone structure surrounding your ears, than through the auditory canal. Plug that canal, and you feel safe and secure, but the hearing damage goes on anyway. Quiet doesn't mean safe.

For comfort, I never found any real difference between the Bose and the Lightspeed. The lightspeed is perhaps a little more comfortable to wear, but there's no perceptible difference that I can tell between the hearing comfort of the Bose and the Lightspeed.

I had a choice of ANR or none in my helmet, and went without the ANR.

During flying, I wear a Telex 750, and it works fine. I really liked the T50 headset from plantronics, but I can't function well hearing in just one ear...the airman puts the sound to both ears and works fine.

A plain jane old headset with oregon aero ear seals, a wide sheepskin headband, and the internal hush kit (extra dense foam) works wonders, and is really all you need...it's going to give you the protection you need. If you want any more then throw in the EAR plugs as well, and you're set.
 
All these Bose cheerleaders don't mirror the experience of a friend who had a Bose headset. He got one from his sister as a gift, and after they crapped out for the third time (with factory repairs each time) he somehow managed to swing a refund for his sis and went back to the DC's.

I went back to the DC's after my Lightspeeds broke... As in the headband broke, since it's plastic, and I simply never got around to sending them in for service. I've got about 4500hrs on my H10-13.4's from David Clark and I still feel it's the best $220 (give or take, this was a dozen years ago) I've ever spent. Strangely, the only time they had to be repaired for a failure was the headband breaking, and they sent me the replacement part by overnight mail.

As for Bose vs. Lightspeed, the Bose are lighter, have slightly better sonics and noiz-cancelling, but chew through batteries by comparison. I'd get the Lightspeeds and buy my girl a fab gift with the remaining $$$. Better return on investment, you know. ;)
 
Is there anybody that can share their experience with or without the Bose X in a 727 or 727-like cockpit? I've about had enough of the noise, and I'm seriously considering the investment.


As far as price goes, I can't help but be taken aback by the sticker. However, their program to stretch the payments over 12 months interest free makes it possible to have a pair sent to my home for less than $95 a month. The peace of mind and prospects of obtaining repairs from Bose outweigh the bargains I've found on e-bay. In fact, many of the headsets I see on e-bay are as expensive as the Bose website - - go figger.

Number one priority - - protect my hearing.

Number two priority - - reduce fatigue caused by noise.

Number three priority - - improve clarity of radio transmissions.

Number four priority - - reduce perceived noise.

Does anybody know of something that will better fit this bill than Bose?
 
I'll join the ranks of Bose cheerleaders. I've run the gambit of trying different headset combinations. In the Jetstream (Garrett TPE331s) I used earplugs with the ol' Dave Clark H10-13.4s.

It was still an awfully loud airplane. At the end of the day my ears would sting from the earplugs and I had a raging headache from the clamp pressure of the clarks.

In the 737 I used Telex 750s. There was an awful lot of wind noise, especially in the descent and I remembered wishing that I had a better pair of headsets -- but since the airplane didn't have an intercom, we just toughed it out.

In the CRJ I started with a pair of Sennheiser ANR headsets. The problem was that the ANR circuitry would only cancel the low frequency noise. Quite a bit of the cockpit noise in the CRJ is high-frequency noise caused by the wind, the air conditioner, and the standby altimeter vibrator doo-hickey. The Sennheisers just didnt do the trick so I started wearing earplugs with them. The fact was that I needed some kind of passive protection to along with the active to eliminate both low and high frequency noise.

I went to Sporty's in Clearmont County and asked the clerk to see all of the different ANR headsets. They have a test bench that you can use to try them. The Bose was clearly superior in comfort, weight, and noise attenuation.

It worked spectacularly in the RJ.

It works even better in the Lear 31.

Bose still has a deal where they will put $100 per month on your credit card until its paid off. I still believe that they are the finest product around when it comes to crystal clear audio.

I fly with both the aircraft volume and the headset volume at their lowest level. Take a look at where you set your volume controls and how much noise/energy is being absorbed in order for you to hear clearly.

-Bose Cheerleader
 

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