"winning the lotto"

[SWA/CA]

Then tell us all why wn fo's are worried about delayed upgrades after the sli is out?

they wont be.....we have a great story to tell at Southwest Airlines.

Tell us about the trannies that are worried about ALPA screwing this up for them?

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

I understand you guys have flexibility in picking up extra trips, but on average will an FO make more than the 150k that clarkgriswold quoted?

I am a 5th year SWA F/O. In 2010 I made $178,000. I worked my ass off but it is without a doubt possible.

 

[redflyer65]

I like how Clark started this thread, but has mysteriously disappeared after throwing the grenade.

 

[T-1GUY]

Not having any prior airline experience, can you explain a little bit in detail what you can expect for year one at Southwest. Assume I live in Dallas. Would I be assigned reserve out of OAK ? Would I be traveling to work on my days off ? (thus eating into my 15 days off ?) How easy would that commute be ? Would I be living in a crash pad while on reserve ? How many trips a day could I expect? Do you get paid for just sitting there ? Do you pay for your own meals while sitting reserve ? Any and all details would be appreciated, like I said, I have no airline experience...

 

[ivauir]

It really depends on what kind of growth comes right behind you.

Dallas can be a rough commute, especially to OAK. You won't be able to hold it right away, but Houston is a lot easier to get to and is pretty reasonable if there is any growth (guys in my class had HOU within 2 months).

Reserve days are generally commutable on one end, but you need to look at the specifics of your commute.

Our reserve generally flies, so you probably won't spend much time in the crash pad. Your flying will be where ever scheduling needs a fire put out, so somedays it will be a leisurely 2 or 3 legs and others it will be 6. You'll be doing a lot of dragging your bag between pairings (unlike a lineholder who is more likely to stay with the same aircraft and captain).

You get paid 6.0 TFP if you sit and at least 6.5 if they use you. You pay for your own meals no matter what your status, but you get per diem if they call you out.

Hope that helps

 

[T-1GUY]

Thanks, that was extremely helpful...

 

[saabcaptain]

So a new hire on RSV gets 15 TO 16 OFF ?

Yes, that is correct. And our reserve rules are considered but most of us to be the WORST of our contract.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

I work for a leagcy, and fly a widebody and hold a decent line. It works for me.

This type of flying isn't everyone's "cup of tea". I don't want 1.0 legs, some do.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Not having any prior airline experience, can you explain a little bit in detail what you can expect for year one at Southwest. Assume I live in Dallas. Would I be assigned reserve out of OAK ? MAYBE Would I be traveling to work on my days off ? MAYBE (thus eating into my 15 days off ?) How easy would that commute be ? SOMETIMES EASY, hard around the holidaysWould I be living in a crash pad while on reserve ? PROBABLY How many trips a day could I expect? Do you get paid for just sitting there ? YES Do you pay for your own meals while sitting reserve ? YES, until getting called out Any and all details would be appreciated, like I said, I have no airline experience...

You may not get your first choice when hired. If not hired at a place u want to stay, then take it, get the experience and keep looking.

When u get to tghe carrier you hope to stay and retire from, if feasible move your family to a pilot base (then hope it doesn't close)

 

[SWA/FO]

I work for a leagcy, and fly a widebody and hold a decent line. It works for me.

This type of flying isn't everyone's "cup of tea". I don't want 1.0 legs, some do.

Whatever pays the bills.

 

[spitfire1500]

Fed Ex is "Winning the Lotto"!

 

[say again]

My idea of winning the lotto is receiving a check for $150 million and never having to work in the airline industry again.

 

[MILPILOT17]

My idea of winning the lotto is receiving a check for $150 million and never having to work in the airline industry again.

Ladies and Gentlemen, We have a WINNER!

 

[Tripower455]

My idea of winning the lotto is receiving a check for $150 million and never having to work in the airline industry again.

Can I get an AMEN?!

 

[hopalong]

Amen! It's right up there w/ marrying Oprah!
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=11916&title=dave-gets-oprah-pregnant

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

JJ



All FO's are worried about delayed upgrades. Just like junior captains are worried about reductions. We're all in this together.

I've gotta hurry up and upgrade, gotta get 1000 PIC so I can apply at a Major...Since SW isn't a major yet...




I don't care if I ever upgrade but I do need to get some people under me, to me it's all about QOL, I made 144 on 4th year pay, if you can't live off that, you've got bigger problems! Everytime I get a pay raise, I cut back on how much I'm gone...there's way more to life than this BS. bTW, how much will I make at one of those "Majors"? Anyone?

KBB

 

[hopalong]

I've gotta hurry up and upgrade, gotta get 1000 PIC so I can apply at a Major...Since SW isn't a major yet...




I don't care if I ever upgrade but I do need to get some people under me, to me it's all about QOL, I made 144 on 4th year pay, if you can't live off that, you've got bigger problems! Everytime I get a pay raise, I cut back on how much I'm gone...there's way more to life than this BS. bTW, how much will I make at one of those "Majors"? Anyone?

KBB

QOL is key and with quality of life comes decent pay.... There is no doubt that SWA & UPS are the winners when it comes to FO pay.(may be fedex as well.) 144k/yr. is awesome money and congrats for that! It is just a shame that some of us are willing to sell our souls for less than the average pay of a city bus driver. BTW, my grandpa drove city buses for 30 plus years. It is sad that we are tolerating such low wages when we are in charge of more real estate and lives in any given day.... We deserve more.... NOT EVERYONE can handle the PRESSURE we go through on a daily basis....