HA25
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Re: FA
Some good points FalconJet, and I totally agree with the free market setting price... And my comments weren't so much meant to say that the Government should regulate wages. However, the fact is that Unions are there to artificially modify the cost of labor in favor of the labor. They off set the tyranical tendency of managment to demand a lot and give a little.
For example, we know as pilots that if there were no pilot unions, there would be no 6 figure wage pilots. But for the unions keeping wages artificially high, the supply and demand curve for guys who want to fly for Delta, American, and Fedex would make for cheap labor for those guys, as many people think the job is cool, irrespective of what it pays...
I for one think a Union for jobs like Pilot, and other skilled careers is good and helps insure quality pilots. But unions for unskilled labor artificially cause high costs to airlines and other companies that have similar labor.
New F/A's can go from working a retail job, or being a home maker, to working the line within a month... Pilots can't (far from it).
They are unskilled labor and their safety value is minimal (mostly FAA lobbying by the AFA, otherwise there would be a mandetory retirement age). While, I acknowledge that they have some safety value, the fact is once the wheels are up, there isn't much they can do to stop panic if it starts. Usually passengers are enlisted to stop other passengers who have become unruly.
IMHO
Falconjet said:
Some good points FalconJet, and I totally agree with the free market setting price... And my comments weren't so much meant to say that the Government should regulate wages. However, the fact is that Unions are there to artificially modify the cost of labor in favor of the labor. They off set the tyranical tendency of managment to demand a lot and give a little.
For example, we know as pilots that if there were no pilot unions, there would be no 6 figure wage pilots. But for the unions keeping wages artificially high, the supply and demand curve for guys who want to fly for Delta, American, and Fedex would make for cheap labor for those guys, as many people think the job is cool, irrespective of what it pays...
I for one think a Union for jobs like Pilot, and other skilled careers is good and helps insure quality pilots. But unions for unskilled labor artificially cause high costs to airlines and other companies that have similar labor.
New F/A's can go from working a retail job, or being a home maker, to working the line within a month... Pilots can't (far from it).
They are unskilled labor and their safety value is minimal (mostly FAA lobbying by the AFA, otherwise there would be a mandetory retirement age). While, I acknowledge that they have some safety value, the fact is once the wheels are up, there isn't much they can do to stop panic if it starts. Usually passengers are enlisted to stop other passengers who have become unruly.
IMHO
