Will 9E have a contract in place by March?

[Mesabi Miner]

Any idea guys? How are the talks with Philly Boy going? Are you all through any of the big money issues yet? Just curious.

MM

 

[blackbox]

The company and the CNC hasnt met the last few months. From what I was told we were too far apart on the "big money issues" so the mediator didnt schedule any more meetings until the new year. I havent heard of any scheduled meetings as of yet.

 

[captain dad]

Quote :Will 9E have a contract in place by March?

Answer: NO! That is unless they use lube.

 

[PCL_128]

The last time we met with the company to negotiate was in October. No progress was made over a period of three days. In fact, management sent their lawyer in to tell our CNC that "we will no longer be negotiating at the table." The mediator hasn't scheduled any more negotiating sessions at this point, but I suspect we'll get some within the next month. I seriously doubt we will have an agreement by the end of March.

 

[jc3]

Not if it means signing a sub-par contract!

 

[redflyer65]

No contract by March. The company is in a full court STALL. No progress because of them.

 

[i fly boxes]

But guys! NWA will remove the crjs you are getting back!

Bull crap, who is going to fly them? They would need to start training now.

Our management is simply running out of scare tactics. They should be viewed as liars, and we should have no confidence in them at all. Every flight attendant and ramper that I talk to I ask them to remember the letters they all got in the mail saying we were all going to lose our jobs if we did not have a pilot contract. Look at us now, we are getting planes back, we are able to fly for other carriers and we have a new 10 year asa agreement, all without a pilot contract. Now they fire our chief pilot because they didn't get along? I think we should have a no confidence vote in our management.

 

[blackbox]

In fact, management sent their lawyer in to tell our CNC that "we will no longer be negotiating at the table."

At what point will they be found in violation of "bargaining in good faith"?

 

[XJohXJ]

At what point will they be found in violation of "bargaining in good faith"?

Never, until Bush is gone.

 

[PCL_128]

At what point will they be found in violation of "bargaining in good faith"?

What XJohXJ said.

 

[CoATP]

If they remove the 15 then 9E is where they are now. So no big whoop. Mgmt can bluster but they have come up against the house that is made of bricks. Sorry about the analogy that was a wolf not a rat.

 

[Inconceivable]

Quote :Will 9E have a contract in place by March?

Answer: NO! That is unless they use lube.

When I was still single, I found CASH to be one of the most effective lubes.

You listening Phil?

 

[n32jk]

Never, until Bush is gone.

Bingo!!!! We have a winner here.

 

[n32jk]

But guys! NWA will remove the crjs you are getting back!

Bull crap, who is going to fly them? They would need to start training now.

Our management is simply running out of scare tactics. They should be viewed as liars, and we should have no confidence in them at all. Every flight attendant and ramper that I talk to I ask them to remember the letters they all got in the mail saying we were all going to lose our jobs if we did not have a pilot contract. Look at us now, we are getting planes back, we are able to fly for other carriers and we have a new 10 year asa agreement, all without a pilot contract. Now they fire our chief pilot because they didn't get along? I think we should have a no confidence vote in our management.

How about 1200 letters of no confidence to the BOD and NWA's BOD??? Probably give them a hard-on knowing the pilots were unhappy, but the gravity of our potential reaction might worry the money changers at the temple.

 

[xjcaptain]

Never, until Bush is gone.

......Because we ALL know that prior to Bush, all airline management bargained in good faith, and the the road to retirement was without a bump and paved with gold. Come on guys do you think any president would give a rats behind about any small reginal airline? Most wouldn't even know we exit.

 

[PCL_128]

......Because we ALL know that prior to Bush, all airline management bargained in good faith, and the the road to retirement was without a bump and paved with gold. Come on guys do you think any president would give a rats behind about any small reginal airline? Most wouldn't even know we exit.

The President himself isn't the real problem at this stage. The problem is who he has appointed to the NMB. The President appoints two of the three members of the NMB. The third is appointed by the opposition party (the Dems in this case). So, in other words, President Bush's two anti-labor appointees have the majority vote on the issues that matter to our negotiations. That's why ASA can't get released even after 4+ years of negotiating. Do you think that Clinton's NMB would have allowed ASA's negotiations to go on this long? Now, I'm definitely no Clinton fan, but we can't deny that the President's appointments are of great importance to us as air line pilots.