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I agree with every statement in this thread. It is too bad you should have done your research before you undertook this career, like I did and said **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** it dude, I would rather work a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ed up schedule than work a 9-5 M-F pushing my pencil...and the proper way to spell wadge is WAGE.
 
TAB Express Airline

Founded: 1990; FAA Licenses and Ratings Offered: ASEL, AMEL, CMEL and Instrument; Number of Training Airplanes and Types: 23 Beech King Air A/B90s and 7 Cessna 172s; Degree Offered: None. This is a flight training academy owned by the airline.

Remarks: TAB Express Airline is a Florida-based regional airline that trains its own first officers, guaranteeing them employment at 250 hours. Ninety percent of our training is done in Beech King Air A/B 90 twin-engine turbine aircraft, with training carried out by current, furloughed or retired airline captains. At 250 hours, our first officers go online with our airline, and then at 500 hours are hired by one of our bridge partner airlines. Training takes approximately nine months and the TAB Express Airline Internship approximately three months. Financing is available to over $100,000 with payments deferred up to 20 months. In order to guarantee employment, TAB Express maintains these prerequisites: pass a pre-hire interview and cognizance test; be age 20-50; pass a 10-year FAA background and a first-class class medical exam (including having 20/20 corrected vision); and have a clean credit report.
 
WayBack said:
Exactly. It's guys like you that cause problems on the line, bItching and whining. Either do something about it, or take it and shut up. You knew damm well what you were getting into when you applied. Only person you have to blame right now is yourself. You wanted the job, they gave it to you, along with a stockpile more of BS you now have to live through.
Aren't you the same a$$wipe ripping into other pilots for not wearing their hats? Based on your profile, I'm going to call Bullsh1t on your attitude. Guessing you haven't flown for one of the regional wonders as of yet thus have no realistic experience to what life is like on the line. As long as I'm profiling you one or more of the following most definitely applies...
a) you have a rich boyfriend
b) you have rich parents or inherited alot of money
c) you have no life whatsoever except for TV and Aviation
d) you wear a pilots hat in the car
e) you are Johnny Ornstein or some other management prick
f) you are a sophmore in high school who happened upon this board and enjoy stirring up reactions cause nothing else is going on
g) you are or will be a scab
h) you are or will be the coworker that gate agents, rampers, mechanics, dispatchers, flight attendants, and other pilots hate working with and thus try bidding around your schedule
 
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Okay...Okay enough with the whinning etc...Lets get back to the Star Wars thing...

Who's Darth Vader...? Remember He goes to the Good side in Return of the Jedi..
Oh oh more important than that who's Princess Laya...(you remember when she was wearing that bikini thing chained to Jaba the hut Oh yea!!1)

LMAO!!!
 
George Lucas never really told us the truth... Darth Vader is really Jonathan Ornsten. He was trained by the root of all evil, Emperor Frank Lorenzo.

With the rebellion (ALPA) in disarray, and no real leadership for the young recruits, it's time we relocate our base to a new planet. The race to the bottom must stop. It's getting out of control. Time is running out.
 
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"Exactly. It's guys like you that cause problems on the line, bItching and whining. Either do something about it, or take it and shut up. You knew damm well what you were getting into when you applied. Only person you have to blame right now is yourself. You wanted the job, they gave it to you, along with a stockpile more of BS you now have to live through."

A lot of people knew what they were getting into when they first started, unfortunately no one knew just how bad things would get. On top of dealing with an ailing economy and being bitch-slapped by management- some have to put up with jerkoffs like the WayBack.
 
I agree that we all knew what we were getting into when we joined the Regional airlines BUT we did it with the hopes/expectations/dreams of moving on to a liveable wage at the majors. For most of us that dream has been ripped out from under us and may not happen at all. Maybe we should be a little more understanding of those guys/gals trying to support families in this sick industry. Just my $0.02.
 
Treetopflyer

Find this recruit, take him with you... and train him. He may be clumsy.. but he may be our last hope......
 
I agree that management takes advantage of the pilot groups in many ways...but instead of whinning and complaining all the time, we need to all (EVERYONE...ALL ALPA PILOTS) put our heads together and come up with a way to get the upper hand......because right now, its like we are walking into a gun fight with a water pistol and telling everyone to drop there weapons...and actually expecting them too and getting mad cause they won't. Negotiations don't work this way. YOU MUST HAVE LEVERAGE!! Unfortunately, we as pilots don't have enough to get what we want at this time. For us at ASA, a strike is unlikely...Bush has said it won't happen on his watch...that takes away an enormous amount of leverage right away and the company knows this. Yes, we can hold strickly to policies, write everything up....etc etc, but this only goes so far if its just one group doing it.....But if ALL OF DELTA does it...thats another story...

When we all come together as one voice, then and only then will we have the leverage to get what we want. Right now, we're going strap with a pump action WATER GUN!!!
 
The Key Word here is "strap on"!!! or Its kindda Like A one legged Man at an A$$ kicking contest...

The flying public has lost its romantic vision of flying... Like in the movie "catch me if you can"... that guy actually dressed up like a pilot to cash checks to get respect by the ones he was trying to decieve!!! These days it's..."Is this going to clear...? What is ABC airline? 4 forms of ID please and...blah blah..." you get the point!!!

Somewhere between deregulation and Southwest Airlines air transportation has become a cheap form of transportation...

Companies are trying to stay up with cheap fare demands...
that's not say they could do better but it is the the passenger's prices that drives the market and prices and profit...but when there is a profit (like some of the regionals have of late) should increase pay and QOL!!!
 
wookie

"Somewhere between deregulation and Southwest Airlines air transportation has become a cheap form of transportation"

And now Southwest is one of the highest paying airline jobs. Not counting cargo of course. When our RJ cpt's are making about the same as a united 737cpt the writings on the wall.
 
It amazes me that some people actually think what has happened in this industry is ok because we knew what we were getting into! To you I say F#$K U, give me a break.

I never knew I would pay union due to have my job in jepordy by J4J, I never knew I would commute to reserve for 4 years, I never knew fellow pilots with 5 years senority would be downgraded so mainline pilots would be upgraded after only 2 years at their major, I never knew I would take constant paycuts, I never knew I would have zero stability.

So there are a few things I did'nt know but that does'nt make it right, I won't stand around and except it. I have rich parents, but they don't support me nor do I want them to. I signed up to be a PROFESIONAL pilot not some pice of sh@t that's not even paid a liviable wage.

I only agree with you saying quit if you don't like it, but, its not as grey as you make it seem, lot's, myself included have sacrificed alot for this industry and want to paid for it. Keep accepting the meager salary and crappy living wages and you will get just that. Why don't you quit so we can raise the bar and make a living. Oh I forgot you love this so much. You my friend are the problem, not the ones who respect themselves.
 

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