Why are FedEx planes so dirty

[taloft]

...because their passengers don't care.

 

[Huck]

I preflight probably 12 MD10/11's a month. I have no idea what you're talking about. When I got hired here I was amazed at how clean the planes are.

They get deice fluid on them in the winter but other than that they're clean, at least the ones I fly.

 

[kilroy]

Is it that white shows dirt more then brown?????????????? Just a thought.

 

[DieselDragRacer]

Is it that white shows dirt more then brown?????????????? Just a thought.

Here in the coatings world we were told UPS spent big money to find/create that particular color because they specifically wanted a color that didn't show dirt.

Whether its true or not I don't know but it makes sense.

While I rarely ever see a dirty UPS truck on the road there are 12 'variances' (meaning the paint companies never matched the prime color correctly to begin with) of UPS Brown so its not real hard to find 2 UPS trucks that don't match each other which is sad when you consider how simple of a color it really is.

 

[AV80R]

Here in the coatings world we were told UPS spent big money to find/create that particular color because they specifically wanted a color that didn't show dirt.


Doubt it; the color you see on airplanes is the standard UPS brown they have on all trucks. I was told they did some research on fuel savings when it comes to cleaning/waxing airplanes and/or trucks (I mean package cars ). With the fuel prices this high I bet you the fuel burn savings are worth the extra hassle - so they wash and wax their equipment quite often…

 

[DieselDragRacer]

Out of curiosity, I'd be interested in a UPS employee researching how UPS Brown came to be.

 

[AV80R]

Diesel, maybe you were right re: the "less visible dirt" theory...Here’s what I found…

1919 – 1930: The Beginning of the Common Carrier Era
In 1919, the company made its first expansion beyond Seattle to Oakland, California, where the name United Parcel Service debuted. "United" reflected the company's consolidated shipments, while "Parcel" indicated the kinds of deliveries the company made, and "Service," noted Charlie Soderstrom, "is all we have to offer." During the same year, Charlie was credited with the idea of painting all the company's cars brown, chosen for its stately appearance.


http://www.100ups.com/history/1919-1930.html

The brown color that UPS uses on its vehicles and uniforms is called UPS brown, which was chosen because it is the same color that was used on Pullman railroad sleeper cars and was seen as professional and elegant. The brown color hides dirt well and was inconspicuous. UPS's department store customers did not want to call attention to the fact that UPS was delivering their furniture, rather than its own delivery men. UPS has trademarked the color brown, which prevents other delivery companies from using it as part of their brand. UPS also operates its own airline (IATA: 5X, ICAO: UPS, and Callsign: UPS ) based in Louisville, Kentucky.
In April 2003, UPS unveiled a new logo, replacing the iconic package and shield originally designed in 1961 by Paul Rand. The new logo features a capital "U" and a capital "S", with an ironically larger lower-case "p" in the middle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Parcel_Service

 

[spitfire1500]

I'll tell you why they are so dirty (and I don't even have to waste my time reading the rest of the thread)....theyr'e too dang busy making money....jackass!!

 

[AV80R]

....jackass!!

Why name calling? He/she just asked a silly question, that's all...

 

[PURPLEHAZE21]

A guy named "Jose" in Mexico City cleans our planes for half the price it cost in the U.S..

 

[AV80R]

A guy named "Jose" in Mexico City cleans our planes for half the price it cost in the U.S..

Why is he doing that?! That’s crazy; he should jump the fence and do the very same job here in the US. This way he’d be able to charge the same price yet now he’d get free health care, his kids could go to any college and only pay in-state-tuition, and he could avoid paying any taxes. Best of all; he could precede Cinco de Mayo celebrations by demonstrating on every May 1 to demand US citizenship!

Ps. Bank of Amexica would gladly lend him money to buy a nice hacienda...

 

[TheBaron]

A guy named "Jose" in Mexico City cleans our planes for half the price it cost in the U.S..

Why is he doing that?! That’s crazy; he should jump the fence and do the very same job here in the US. This way he’d be able to charge the same price yet now he’d get free health care, his kids could go to any college and only pay in-state-tuition, and he could avoid paying any taxes. Best of all; he could precede Cinco de Mayo celebrations by demonstrating on every May 1 to demand US citizenship!

Ps. Bank of Amexica would gladly lend him money to buy a nice hacienda...

Why so much hate toward my gardener? Unless your name is Flying Eagle, Two Bears, or Sitting Bull, you are an immigrant too. My only complaint is they should learn to speak the language our constitution is written in.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Why so much hate toward my gardener? Unless your name is Flying Eagle, Two Bears, or Sitting Bull, you are an immigrant too. My only complaint is they should learn to speak the language our constitution is written in.

Somehow I think it's just a lighthearted joke son.

 

[AV80R]

Why so much hate toward my gardener? Unless your name is Flying Eagle, Two Bears, or Sitting Bull, you are an immigrant too. My only complaint is they should learn to speak the language our constitution is written in.

Au contraire my friend – no hate at all. …and yes, I’m definitely an immigrant myself; as a matter of fact became a US citizen only some 5 years ago! You see, I'm an American by choice, not by birth.

I am just extremely disappointment that while I had to follow the law and waited patiently in line your gardener jumped the fence and said “the law does not apply to me!”

What irks me even more is that so many of our allied troops have either died or have been wounded over in Afghanistan or in Iraq supporting our cause (Estonia, Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Japan, South Korea, Mongolia, etc.) yet their relatives aren’t even allowed to come over to the US to work here legally. Instead, we routinely let in millions of illegal aliens from south of the border and every 10 years or so, we forgive them their sins and hocus pocus - make them legal.

So whether one is for or against the war itself, the fact we treat our “allies” so differently definitely ticks me off - I call it the Pro-Hispanic or Anti-European discrimination.

Btw. If your gardener is from the south of the border, he/she is a living proof that the “melting pot” of this country is irrevocably turning into a huge "chimichanga." You see, there is no way to have a “melting” pot of anything when 99% of the ingredients come from the very same source.

Like my flag? Got it just for your gardener...

 

[TheBaron]

Somehow I think it's just a lighthearted joke son.

Thanks Mom. The frowning face implied otherwise.

 

[TheBaron]

Au contraire my friend – no hate at all. …and yes, I’m definitely an immigrant myself; as a matter of fact became a US citizen only some 5 years ago! You see, I'm an American by choice, not by birth.

I am just extremely disappointment that while I had to follow the law and waited patiently in line your gardener jumped the fence and said “the law does not apply to me!”

What irks me even more is that so many of our allied troops have either died or have been wounded over in Afghanistan or in Iraq supporting our cause (Estonia, Poland, Romania, Ukraine, Japan, South Korea, Mongolia, etc.) yet their relatives aren’t even allowed to come over to the US to work here legally. Instead, we routinely let in millions of illegal aliens from south of the border and every 10 years or so, we forgive them their sins and hocus pocus - make them legal.

So whether one is for or against the war itself, the fact we treat our “allies” so differently definitely ticks me off - I call it the Pro-Hispanic or Anti-European discrimination.

Btw. If your gardener is from the south of the border, he/she is a living proof that the “melting pot” of this country is irrevocably turning into a huge "chimichanga." You see, there is no way to have a “melting” pot of anything when 99% of the ingredients come from the very same source.

Like my flag? Got it just for your gardener...

Can you blame some guy from "south of the border" for wanting to improve his families chances for a decent future? The blame belongs to our government for failing to properly protect our borders and the businesses that hire illegals without fear of punishment. What is it my cool black friends say..."Don't hate the playa', hate the game", although being white I may have that totally reversed.
PS. I don't really have a gardener.

 

[AV80R]

Can you blame some guy from "south of the border" for wanting to improve his families chances for a decent future?

- Not at all; and that's exactly why I said there's absolutely no hate involved. I do not blame them for trying to improve their lives, it's human nature to try to take care of your family first and foremost!

The blame belongs to our government for failing to properly protect our borders and the businesses that hire illegals without fear of punishment.

- Agree with you again. I voted for our president in the very first election I was allowed to participate in shortly after becoming a US citizen. I am probably one of the few remaining supporters he still got as I continue to support him on Iraq war and many other issues (I guess I’m in the 28% club? Lol).
- However, his "pretend we have a border" policy and the “amnesty” program (although he likes to call it something else) he's working on with the democrats is a slap in my face and frankly every legal alien’s face who followed the law and became a permanent resident and eventually a US citizen. So, yes it is the government I am disappointed with and not the illegal aliens.

What is it my cool black friends say..."Don't hate the playa', hate the game", although being white I may have that totally reversed. LOL

PS. I don't really have a gardener.

I didn’t think you did, I just knew you’d enjoy the flag…

Ps. Don’t mess with MegaMama

 

[better up here]

If you see FedEx planes vs UPS planes, the UPS planes seem much cleaner.

The FedEx planes always are covered with filth.

Both companies are making piles of money, but wondering if it is corporate culture thing why UPS has such clean planes vs FedEx.

Just read "Big Brown." You'll see.