Who will buy Comair!

[kngarthur]

I think it's getting pretty obvious that Comair is going to be bought by someone soon. The question is who? I'm going to say that it will either be CHQ or Mesa. Any guesses? And to all the Comair guys--good luck I wish you well!

 

[kngarthur]

Also I think buying Mesa and CHQ stock right now would be a good idea, considering there's just about 100% chance that one of these will buy Comair. Just like how ole Skywest stock doubled after the ASA announcement.

 

[General Lee]

I think it's getting pretty obvious that Comair is going to be bought by someone soon. The question is who? I'm going to say that it will either be CHQ or Mesa. Any guesses? And to all the Comair guys--good luck I wish you well!

If I were to GUESS, I would bet someone other than SkyWest, since DL doesn't want all of their eggs again in one basket. I think Mesa and CHQ would be the front runners obviously. Mesa will have it's hands full with a few other projects, like GO! Hawaii, and CHQ will be looking for planes for their CAL feed if Expressjet doesn't give up their 69 ERJs. I will bet CHQ buys them and uses 69 of their older CRJ200s for the CAL feed, while they replace some DL feed with newer 70 seaters. Just a guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[kngarthur]

If I were to GUESS, I would bet someone other than SkyWest, since DL doesn't want all of their eggs again in one basket. I think Mesa and CHQ would be the front runners obviously. Mesa will have it's hands full with a few other projects, like GO! Hawaii, and CHQ will be looking for planes for their CAL feed if Expressjet doesn't give up their 69 ERJs. I will bet CHQ buys them and uses 69 of their older CRJ200s for the CAL feed, while they replace some DL feed with newer 70 seaters. Just a guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

I think your right. I've already heard talk about a fence, from a very reputable source.

 

[TO/TO]

who will buy comair.

just remember, it doesn't have to be an airline that buys us. there are plenty of investment groups that are looking for investment oportunities. there are wealthy individuals with plenty of money to invest. there could be an IPO. there could be an LBO. who knows.

i would venture to say that Comair will be sold soon (Delta needs cash and low cost feed). Probably will happen shortly after the FA's are taken care of. There could be a backroom deal that has already been done and we just don't know it. Perhaps that is why delta is not backing down from the 42 Mil cost savings number. Perhaps the potential buyer(s) has been quoted a specified cost savings and rate of return for Comair. who knows.

I personally would rather NOT be bought by another airline. if you are owned by another airline, they (MGMT) can play one group against another. they can't do that if THEY can't transfer planes or flying to another group.

 

[jetfo]

If I were to GUESS, I would bet someone other than SkyWest, since DL doesn't want all of their eggs again in one basket. I think Mesa and CHQ would be the front runners obviously. Mesa will have it's hands full with a few other projects, like GO! Hawaii, and CHQ will be looking for planes for their CAL feed if Expressjet doesn't give up their 69 ERJs. I will bet CHQ buys them and uses 69 of their older CRJ200s for the CAL feed, while they replace some DL feed with newer 70 seaters. Just a guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

The only problem with that is that I don't see XJT keeping the 69 ERJ's. I really don't see who would want them, other than CHQ for their CAL contract.

If that is the case, it would seem more likely for Mesa to pick up Comair, and in view of Mesa's increasing involvement with DL that wouldn't be too surprising.

Also, I don't see CHQ wanting the CRJ's when they are an all ERJ carrier.

Hey, I have an idea! Maybe XJT will pick up CMR. Other possibilities are Air Wisconsin and depending on what happens at Mesaba and PNCL they could be options as well.

 

[Superpilot92]

The only problem with that is that I don't see XJT keeping the 69 ERJ's. I really don't see who would want them, other than CHQ for their CAL contract.

If that is the case, it would seem more likely for Mesa to pick up Comair, and in view of Mesa's increasing involvement with DL that wouldn't be too surprising.

Also, I don't see CHQ wanting the CRJ's when they are an all ERJ carrier.

Hey, I have an idea! Maybe XJT will pick up CMR. Other possibilities are Air Wisconsin and depending on what happens at Mesaba and PNCL they could be options as well.

XJT could buy Comair to secure another contract with another carrier. We have the money to do so now if mgmt wants to, who knows.

 

[kngarthur]

The only problem with that is that I don't see XJT keeping the 69 ERJ's. I really don't see who would want them, other than CHQ for their CAL contract.

If that is the case, it would seem more likely for Mesa to pick up Comair, and in view of Mesa's increasing involvement with DL that wouldn't be too surprising.

Also, I don't see CHQ wanting the CRJ's when they are an all ERJ carrier.

Hey, I have an idea! Maybe XJT will pick up CMR. Other possibilities are Air Wisconsin and depending on what happens at Mesaba and PNCL they could be options as well.

Nope! Don't think so! Is always okay to dream though--little partner!!!

 

[General Lee]

The only problem with that is that I don't see XJT keeping the 69 ERJ's. I really don't see who would want them, other than CHQ for their CAL contract.

If that is the case, it would seem more likely for Mesa to pick up Comair, and in view of Mesa's increasing involvement with DL that wouldn't be too surprising.

Also, I don't see CHQ wanting the CRJ's when they are an all ERJ carrier.

Hey, I have an idea! Maybe XJT will pick up CMR. Other possibilities are Air Wisconsin and depending on what happens at Mesaba and PNCL they could be options as well.

My buddy at Expressjet said they have no intention of returning the 69 ERJs, and they don't have to. They apparently have a "plan" to do something else with them. I have no idea what that means, but they won't be flying for CAL it looks like. He mentioned a couple of ideas, which may not be true, like creating a fractional airline with the ERJs--with corporate shuttle type operations for companies. I don't know....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[kngarthur]

just remember, it doesn't have to be an airline that buys us. there are plenty of investment groups that are looking for investment oportunities. there are wealthy individuals with plenty of money to invest. there could be an IPO. there could be an LBO. who knows.

i would venture to say that Comair will be sold soon (Delta needs cash and low cost feed). Probably will happen shortly after the FA's are taken care of. There could be a backroom deal that has already been done and we just don't know it. Perhaps that is why delta is not backing down from the 42 Mil cost savings number. Perhaps the potential buyer(s) has been quoted a specified cost savings and rate of return for Comair. who knows.

I personally would rather NOT be bought by another airline. if you are owned by another airline, they (MGMT) can play one group against another. they can't do that if THEY can't transfer planes or flying to another group.

Who would you rather be bought by? Mesa or Chautauqua?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

My buddy at Expressjet said they have no intention of returning the 69 ERJs, and they don't have to. They apparently have a "plan" to do something else with them. I have no idea what that means, but they won't be flying for CAL it looks like. He mentioned a couple of ideas, which may not be true, like creating a fractional airline with the ERJs--with corporate shuttle type operations for companies. I don't know....


Bye Bye--General Lee

More along the lines of, put them in the desert and wait for concessions.

 

[kngarthur]

It only make sense now that I think about it. CHQ will buy Comair! I bet you the deal is already done:

1. Coex codeshare was a big suprise (meaning our union is kept in the dark).
2. BB remarked in his letter that XJT keeping those planes would actually benifit us.
3. Rumors about fences if CHQ pick up CRJ's
4. Common bases (MCO, GSO)
5. FA's easily replaced.
6. SKYW and Mesa, tied up right now
7. Oh yea the E-170!!!

Im not saying that I know anything, but I think the writing is on the wall.

 

[WateryGrave]

It only make sense now that I think about it. CHQ will buy Comair! I bet you the deal is already done:

1. Coex codeshare was a big suprise (meaning our union is kept in the dark).
2. BB remarked in his letter that XJT keeping those planes would actually benifit us.
3. Rumors about fences if CHQ pick up CRJ's
4. Common bases (MCO, GSO)
5. FA's easily replaced.
6. SKYW and Mesa, tied up right now
7. Oh yea the E-170!!!

Im not saying that I know anything, but I think the writing is on the wall.

Everyone should already know better than to waste their time responding to this flame baiting little pimple faced academy geek! Other than the General who can't possibly pass on an oppurtunity to tell us lowly RJ pilots how he knows more than we do! Hey General hows the TA thing going for you?

(and yes I know I'm breaking my own advice by responding to this post)

 

[EMB Skillz]

I think it's getting pretty obvious that Comair is going to be bought by someone soon. The question is who? I'm going to say that it will either be CHQ or Mesa. Any guesses? And to all the Comair guys--good luck I wish you well!

CHQ will buy CMR, and the CMR pilots will get stapled to the bottom of the list or furloughed.

Tell your mom I said hi.

 

[jetfo]

CHQ will buy CMR, and the CMR pilots will get stapled to the bottom of the list or furloughed.

Tell your mom I said hi.

Hah Hah Hah! You're so funny!

How about this, CMR get DOH and most of you guys go back to the right seat, now that's funny.

Better yet, all regionals get sold to Mesa. You go JO!

 

[bvt1151]

Wow, the flamers prevail on this thread.

 

[sleddriver77]

My Three Bucks says that REPUBLIC will NOT buy ComAir. However, I would not be surprised to see Wexford Capital (majority shareholder of Republic) buy ComAir. The Problem with RAH buying ComAir is the fleet type and seniority integration issues. The RAH pilot contract states any flying done by any airline operated by RAH will flown by pilots on the Chautauqua seniority list. No matter how that integration shook out, MOST of the pilots most likely would need to be re-trained for a different aircraft based upon what their (new) seniority's bid could hold. Since ComAir is pretty much a good solid stand-alone entity with their own ground support at most stations, along with the non-common fleet type issue, it would be best to keep them separate from Chautauqua/Republic if "Republic" (ooops, Wexford) were to buy them. A purchase by Mesa would be a whole other breed of cat.

 

[EMB Skillz]

Hah Hah Hah! You're so funny!

How about this, CMR get DOH and most of you guys go back to the right seat, now that's funny.

Better yet, all regionals get sold to Mesa. You go JO!

Anything is possible, but CMR pilots would definitely be pulling gear for the CHQ pilots if CMR is acquired. But dont worry, you guys will always have your stories of the "good ol days" at the Academy.

 

[kngarthur]

My Three Bucks says that REPUBLIC will NOT buy ComAir. However, I would not be surprised to see Wexford Capital (majority shareholder of Republic) buy ComAir. The Problem with RAH buying ComAir is the fleet type and seniority integration issues. The RAH pilot contract states any flying done by any airline operated by RAH will flown by pilots on the Chautauqua seniority list. No matter how that integration shook out, MOST of the pilots most likely would need to be re-trained for a different aircraft based upon what their (new) seniority's bid could hold. Since ComAir is pretty much a good solid stand-alone entity with their own ground support at most stations, along with the non-common fleet type issue, it would be best to keep them separate from Chautauqua/Republic if "Republic" (ooops, Wexford) were to buy them. A purchase by Mesa would be a whole other breed of cat.

What if there was a quick amendment to the contract if let's say it benifited the CHQ pilots. Like maybe they'll really get CASS this time!

 

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How about a private investment group headed up by Hollis Harris?

 

[jetfo]

Anything is possible, but CMR pilots would definitely be pulling gear for the CHQ pilots if CMR is acquired. But dont worry, you guys will always have your stories of the "good ol days" at the Academy.

Hah Hah Hah! You're hillarious!

And bringing the ComAir Academy aka Delta Connection Academy into it (aka "we'll try to get you a job at any carrier but Delta Connection") is really special.

You must be one of their fine graduates ;-)

 

[paddlehigh]

well it won't be long before they are done with usairways out of charlotte so they better pick up something else where. see ya

 

[Broke in CVG]

Larry Flint is going to buy Comair and replace the flight attendants with the girls from the Beaver Hunt.

 

[FlyingDawg]

Personally I don't think RAH will buy Comair, however it wouldn't surprise me if it did happen. The Chautauqua (RAH) contract requires all flying to be done by pilots on the Chautauqua seniority list. The merge of the two groups would probably be a relative position merge, meaning each pilot would be at the same relative position post-merge as he was pre-merge. (If you were at the 10% in your pilot list, you would be 10% on the merged list). No pilots would need to be trained because you would remain at your current position until you could bid up to a higher pay position as positions became open. This is also covered in the current CHQ contract. A 50 seat Capt could not cross over to the other 50 seat aircraft because pay does not increase. The company is only required to train pilots as they upgrade or as captains transition to larger aircraft.

 

[arthompson]

Whats to say CMR is going to be sold at all? Everyone speculated on who was going to buy the USX carriers when US was in BK as well, and look what happened, they weren't sold.

 

[jetfo]

Whats to say CMR is going to be sold at all? Everyone speculated on who was going to buy the USX carriers when US was in BK as well, and look what happened, they weren't sold.

This is different, DAL can't wait to ditch CMR. Just wait, it took them 30 seconds to ditch ASA and they liked ASA!

They still resent CMR from the strike and not to mention the computer glitch that grounded CMR last year.

Why keep CMR, no one wants wholly owned carriers anymore. It's easier to play regionals against each other for the best deal.

 

[jetfo]

Whats to say CMR is going to be sold at all? Everyone speculated on who was going to buy the USX carriers when US was in BK as well, and look what happened, they weren't sold.

That may yet happen, who knows?

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Anything is possible, but CMR pilots would definitely be pulling gear for the CHQ pilots if CMR is acquired. But dont worry, you guys will always have your stories of the "good ol days" at the Academy.

Seriously what is your deal man?? You are a complete tool box.

 

[Cloudroller]

Why would anyone want to buy comair?

 

[Homer Jay]

I don't know why I am bothering to add more fuel to this already stupid thread, but I heard from a few guys this morning that SUPPOSEDLY, we have already been sold to Skywest and that the announcement will be made once the FA's are taken care of. Do I personally believe this? Um...No, but at this point, nothing surprises me anymore...