Who will be the first to fly this for 50 seat rates?

[Wanderlust]

What a stupid airplane. Seats as many as a 717, and in extreme discomfort!

 

[aewanabe]

Republic wants to fly the Embraer 190. It is the same size as the CRJ1000 anyhow. The Republic pilots also want 190's. I cannot figure this out since 175's and 190's pay the same at Republic, and Republic already flies 175's. I guess the Republic pilots want to be regional pilots for the rest of their careers.

Out of the 100 or so RAH pilots I know personally not a single one wants the 190 on property. I can think of maybe 3 who want to be RAH lifers.

The 175 pays well only on the US side there, DL painted 175s pay the paltry 145 plus 3 rate because of the dual-class cabin. Neither pays worth a damn in the right seat. I'm just sayin...

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhsF3IvTg08&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

My vote is Republic.

I thought you were in Kuwait you Commie bastard.

 

[siucavflight]

Dubai, I returned a few months ago, thats what back from the forsaken means.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Dubai, I returned a few months ago, thats what back from the forsaken means.

So I shouldn't bother with Emirates then? What about all the Eurotrash women, though?

 

[siucavflight]

Oh there were some trashy women there, and they liked Americans. Emirates would be an entirely different animal than doing the fractional thing I was doing. Although I left because the are and the culture was just way to strange for me. Those russian girls-wow!

 

[banditdriver]

Sadly I agree. With the bottom 200-500 pilots sitting on possible furlough, I am sure they would vote to fly them for half price just to keep their jobs. If SkyWest threw in quick upgrades for the senior FOs, lines for junior lineholders, higher credits for senior lineholders, and a cool new base, I am positive there would be enough votes to F over the industry again. It has happened here before and will probably happen again.

PS after reading what I have posted, I think I need a drink.

I don't ever recall getting a vote over what airplanes we get or what routes we fly. I guess I was sick on those days. Oh well.
P.S. drink home brew.

 

[LandRoverNut]

PSA but it will be a "Blended Rate"!!

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

They can wish in one hand and ******************** in the other. Whose code are they going to fly a 100 seater under? I don't see any mainline allowing this. Our pay and work rules have been slashed to the point most would burn the place down instead of watching more outsourcing.

Republic wants to fly the Embraer 190. It is the same size as the CRJ1000 anyhow. The Republic pilots also want 190's. I cannot figure this out since 175's and 190's pay the same at Republic, and Republic already flies 175's. I guess the Republic pilots want to be regional pilots for the rest of their careers.

 

[DiverDriver]

They can wish in one hand and ******************** in the other. Whose code are they going to fly a 100 seater under? I don't see any mainline allowing this. Our pay and work rules have been slashed to the point most would burn the place down instead of watching more outsourcing.

Air Wisconsin flew 100 seaters for United on the BAC 146. People seemed to accept that as ok.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

That was then this is now. Ain't gonna happen now. The majors contracts have been decimated to the point that even if they offered us Ual/Dal 2000/2001 contracts we would not trade that for scope. This generation has learned the hard way from our predecessors trading of scope for money.

Air Wisconsin flew 100 seaters for United on the BAC 146. People seemed to accept that as ok.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

I will for 19 seat rates I need a job!

Sayeth the paperboy!
BAAAHAAA looser!
PBR

 

[Bako Cap]

I don't ever recall getting a vote over what airplanes we get or what routes we fly. I guess I was sick on those days. Oh well.
P.S. drink home brew.

I will agree with your "routes we fly" part. But, in May 2003 the pilots of SkyWest airlines VOTED to fly the CRJ7 for the same pay as CRJ2. It was a BS vote for several reasons. Off the top of my head...

1. Jerry was not going to let a bunch of pilots get in the way of profit, but explicity told us that the 700 would not come to SkyWest and growth would stop without the pilot concession. This while SkyWest was making a profit every quarter.
2. No union, no contract, so the vote really did not matter.
3. 18 month "deal Captain Holt an ace and you won't regret it" deal that had no provisions for what to expect in 18 months. It lasted for three and a half yeas until we got this BS overide.
4. SkyWest pilots lowered the bar on the 700/900 (rates only) for the rest of the industry.

PS MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm Home brew on Christmas...

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Honestly the only place I would like to see this airplane would be in another country.

I mean don't get me wrong...if a mainline picks her up it would be cool....but who are we kidding....if a US carrier gets it its going to be a regional.

 

[DiverDriver]

That was then this is now. Ain't gonna happen now. The majors contracts have been decimated to the point that even if they offered us Ual/Dal 2000/2001 contracts we would not trade that for scope. This generation has learned the hard way from our predecessors trading of scope for money.

The scope is still there. It's called the "Air Wisconsin Exception". Look it up. I don't believe it's been taken out by anything. It allows for replacement of the 146s one for one.

 

[strega7]

I don't ever recall getting a vote over what airplanes we get or what routes we fly.

You must have also been sick for the whole week when the USAir "jets-for-jobs" was voted down.

 

[kman]

yeah but the bac jet had pay that was livable. Think it topped out about 120ish an hour...not bad for a regional. 2nd yr fo on the bac was 41 also.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

yeah but the bac jet had pay that was livable. Think it topped out about 120ish an hour...not bad for a regional. 2nd yr fo on the bac was 41 also.

Now THAT'S an airplane right there!

Between that and the ATR...those are what got me into aviation!

 

[JvW]

yeah but the bac jet had pay that was livable. Think it topped out about 120ish an hour...not bad for a regional. 2nd yr fo on the bac was 41 also.

I do not want the EMB190 on our property either and most folks I talk to agree with that. FYI, our EMB175 pay tops at $119.32...and even that aircraft does not belong on Regional Airline property. Just my 2cents.

JvW

 

[BoilerUP]

The RAH 175/190 payscale is very close, and in a few years slightly exceeds, the concessionary ARW 146 payscale for captain rates.

FO rates, notsomuch.