Who/what is Republic?

[Flying Illini]

Who is Republic? Or should I ask, What is Republic?

Are they an actual airline or just some sort of holding company?

Chautauqua is a Republic Airways Company, what other airlines are also Republic Airways Companies?

Is there any sort of benefit to being a "Republic Airways Company?"

excuse the ignorance, someone please set me straight.

 

[Bart Simpson]

http://www.rjet.com/

 

[DGdaPilot]

From what I know (my sister invests for them at Meryll Lynch in NYC), right now they are just the holdings company for CHQ. Apparently they are attaining or have a attained an operations certificate so they will start doing they're own flying soon. Maybe I'm misinformed, but that's what I know.

 

[kngarthur]

From what I know (my sister invests for them at Meryll Lynch in NYC), right now they are just the holdings company for CHQ. Apparently they are attaining or have a attained an operations certificate so they will start doing they're own flying soon. Maybe I'm misinformed, but that's what I know.

They are a business strategy--or a loop hole, so they can fly 70 seaters.

 

[Hammer&Tape]

CHQ,Shuttle America and Rebublic are all company's of Wexford holdings.One makes money,one is a stat up for EMB 170's, the other is a tax write off.

 

[Clyde]

Long live Herman the Duck!!!!!

 

[CHQ Pilot]

Chautauqua Airlines and Republic Airlines are under Republic Airways Holdings (RAH). RAH is controlled by Wexford, LLC out of Connecticut. Shuttle America is not legally related to Chautauqua Airlines, Republic Airlines, or RAH. They are, however, linked by the fact that RAH and Shuttle America are owned by Wexford, Shuttle America flies Chautauqua's SAABs, and uses RAH departments for several of their functions (marketing, IT, etc). Check out the similarity of www.chqair.com and www.flyshuttle.net for an example. The problem is that all three airlines are closely tied, but not in any legal way. Wexford has kept RAH and Shuttle America seperate so that Shuttle America could force some leverage onto the Chautuaqua pilots, but the Chautauqua Airlines CBA cannot protect themselves from what the Shuttle America pilots agree to. Wexford knows they have created a bargaining tool with the setup and are willing to exploit it if the timing is right.

 

[SlapShot]

And the timing may be right now.

 

[BoilerUP]

Repubic Airways Holdings is the publicly-traded company (ticker RJET) that owns Chautauqua. Also under them would be Republic Airlines who is supposed to ultimately fly the E-170, if they ever get an operating certificate. Wexford originally owned Chautauqua, but IPO'd RJET last year (I think).

 

[LegacyIIDriver]

Should have gone on STRIKE at CHQ when we had the chance.

 

[pireps]

Another question: If Republic gets its operating certificate squared away, does that mean that all of the current CHQ E170 pilots will move to the "new" airline?

 

[EMB170Pilot]

From what I have been told, E170 pilots will be on the same senioirty list as the 135/140/145 drivers. 1 senioirty list!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

I also have been told that when Republic comes up, all the pilots will need to go through training AGAIN being that it is a "new" company.

Yippie!

 

[I.P. Freley]

The problem is that all three airlines are closely tied, but not in any legal way. Wexford has kept RAH and Shuttle America seperate so that Shuttle America could force some leverage onto the Chautuaqua pilots, but the Chautauqua Airlines CBA cannot protect themselves from what the Shuttle America pilots agree to.

Can you illustrate a single example in the last three years where SA was used as leverage against CHQ?

How about an example of where the CHQ pilots have had to protect themselves against SA's pilots?

 

[TWAER]

Can you illustrate a single example in the last three years where SA was used as leverage against CHQ?

Why yes I can. During our last negotiations. Need I say more.

 

[8HourPilot]

I also have been told that when Republic comes up, all the pilots will need to go through training AGAIN being that it is a "new" company.

Yippie!

Also what we heard as well, new indoc and the works.......

 

[StuckInASaab]

Yes TWAER say more... I don't remember being told anything about CHQ during your negotiations. What exactly was said or done during your negotiations that caused you to feel threatened by SA? We took a 10% pay cut so WEX could afford to give you a nice raise and retro pay on your last contract. Sounds fair, considering we are "not related in any way to CHQ".

 

[SEFlyer]

They are a bottom feeder.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Why yes I can. During our last negotiations. Need I say more.

Yes, you do need to say more. We had nothing to do with your last negotiations, no matter what your company may have said.

 

[BoilerUP]

They are a bottom feeder.

This coming from a guy who has professed to being a Mesa pilot?

Pot, meet Kettle.

 

[TWAER]

Do you guys think you know everything that went on in the summer of 2003? I sure the hell don't, but I can say there were members of YOUR pilot group willing to undercut our rates for RJ pay. I don't need to say anything else about it. I also don't feel threatend by it at all. You guys do what you need to do to survive. But PLAAAAAAAease get off this we are your dear brother and you are only where you are because we have taken up the A$$ for you. You may have bailed out BB but not this pilot group.

With that being said, I would gladly welcome every SA pilot to our list with some sort of integration.. It would help everyone out on both sides.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I can say there were members of YOUR pilot group willing to undercut our rates for RJ pay.

SA's rates ALREADY undercut your rates for RJ pay, even pre-negotiations for your last contract. The contract signed by SA pilots in the fall of 2001 was whipped up and signed in the space of a week by a group of pilots under duress, and no more than 15-20 pilots who signed that POS still work at SA.

I'm starting to regret having spent the last year-and-a-half defending your last contract against all comers on flightinfo... and believe me, I have. I've stood up for you against (insert better-paid regional here) pilots because I thought you guys did the best you could with what you were given. Because, you know, we're all on the same team. If you think I'm pulling your leg, feel free to search through my posts and count how many times I personally went to bat for you in the face of these "CHQ sucks" threads.

But now I see some of you are more than willing to let the $%&# roll downhill... Comair guys blame you for undercutting them (their current argument is your last contract and Mesa's didn't raise the bar so that's why they agreed to a pay freeze), and now you blame SA for undercutting YOU. At least the Comair guys have something that amounts to actual "evidence", however flimsy it may be.

Fantastic! What can I say, I'm simply RIVETED by this discussion.

 

[tyuwerty]

SA's rates ALREADY undercut your rates for RJ pay, even pre-negotiations for your last contract. The contract signed by SA pilots in the fall of 2001 was whipped up and signed in the space of a week by a group of pilots under duress, and no more than 15-20 pilots who signed that POS still work at SA.

Not to mention least of all, the POS contract WAS the original CHQ contract with their rates and rules at the time.

Fair merger is in the CHQ's pilots best interests as well as the SA guys, it will happen. If it doesn't, what is to stop Republic from farming out the 170 flying to SA just like they did with the saabs??

 

[SEFlyer]

This coming from a guy who has professed to being a Mesa pilot?

Pot, meet Kettle.

Yeah, Mesa's a bottom feeder too -- worse than Republic but not much, no where have I said they are not.

 

[tyuwerty]

Yeah, Mesa's a bottom feeder too -- worse than Republic but not much, no where have I said they are not.

CFII with a thousand hours. I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't whore your sister for a chance to sit in the right seat of an RJ. Keep your comments to yourself. No one at Shuttle has bent over for the opportunity to fly better equipment. They took a paycut to keep their jobs after they were presented with undeniable proof that the company was losing buckets of money on the usairways contract. They did not accept the lower RJ rates that were offered to them at the same time with a carrot of better flying.

 

[tyuwerty]

With that being said, I would gladly welcome every SA pilot to our list with some sort of integration.. It would help everyone out on both sides.

Yes it would help everyone out, you're right.

 

[SEFlyer]

CFII with a thousand hours. I find it hard to believe that you wouldn't whore your sister for a chance to sit in the right seat of an RJ. Keep your comments to yourself. No one at Shuttle has bent over for the opportunity to fly better equipment. They took a paycut to keep their jobs after they were presented with undeniable proof that the company was losing buckets of money on the usairways contract. They did not accept the lower RJ rates that were offered to them at the same time with a carrot of better flying.

Hahaha. Ohh, yeah, I haven't updated my sidebar in 4 years (I'll do it tonight just for you)... So, you're a little off. I'm at my 3rd airline, one of which used to be Mesa so I know how the bottom feeders operate.... Obvisouly you do as well.... It's nothing against the pilots that work there, but the management team itself. That's what everyone on here needs to understand is a crappy airline like Republic or Mesa is in no way indicative of the individuals in the cockpit. Good luck.

In Unity,
SEFlyer

 

[FlyingDawg]

Fair merger is in the CHQ's pilots best interests as well as the SA guys, it will happen. If it doesn't, what is to stop Republic from farming out the 170 flying to SA just like they did with the saabs??

RAH is now a public company. The fiduciary duty of the officers will prevent the transfer of assets to a company they don't own. They can be held liable by the stockholders, the SEC and even the codeshares who own stockrights. Only way flying get transfered is by outright purchase of SA to bring them under the RAH umbrella. In addition the pilot contract prevents the farming out of flying.

1. RAH will eventually purchase SA for reasons unrelated to the 170.
2. Republic will have a certificate by end of Q3.
3. 190's purchased and announced by end of year. Possible need for another certificate.
4. DOH merge in seniority lists without a pilot vote.

 

[I.P. Freley]

That's what everyone on here needs to understand is a crappy airline like Republic or Mesa is in no way indicative of the individuals in the cockpit. Good luck.

Okay, I guess I'll be the one to ask... What makes Republic a crappy airline?

 

[BoilerUP]

I, for one, hope the E190 never darkens any Chautauqua ramp. Most certainly not before a new CBA.