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That was a good story , smart decision to do what you did, one of the best jump pilots I've flown with lost his life in those very same conditions you outlined, good thing you were looking out for him!Flying into ORD, winter. In the tops, where we all know most of the moisture is. Ice CAS comes on so I look up and see 3, not 4 white lights. At that time the CAS for low wing heat comes on (I can't remember the exact CAS wording but it was the A/ICE wing not getting heat). Now I look at my wing, its a popsicle. I tell him and he says "well mine's clear". Nice, I think to myself. So I ask him if he wants lower (i.e. let's get outta this krap). He says no we're fine and so on. Now the ice is getting a little too much for my comfort level and I ask him if he wants the QRH....of course not! We're starting the approach soon!
So I ask him "how about I bump the speeds up 15 knots and we do a flap 9 (was it 9 in the pencil jet?) landing. "NO! I am the CA and I will decide things in here".
Well, I know better than to do a flap 45 landing at ref + 5 with all that ice. SO I sneak the speeds up 15 knots and simply snap the handle for all his flap calls after 9. When the checklist is done cover the tape with my finger except for the first increment so he thinks they are all the way to 45.
SO here comes the countdown...One HUNdred....FIFty...FORty...THIRty....KA (bad word)ING BAM!!!!! We get to the gate after the usual ORD tour, and the ramp guys are all pointing and gawking at the planes wing, covered in ice but somehow we didn't drop a wing, it just fell even and hard.
Two things I learned that day: never, ever take "I'm the CA" as an answer to a concern, and second, that pencil jet is tough as nails.
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