Who has the most FAA type ratings?

[FracCapt]

There are quite a number of Helicopter Type Ratings. Just like an airplane, you need a Type Rating to fly specific helicopters

Correct....but many of the helicopters listed do NOT require a type rating. Not over 12,500lbs. Not even close for most of them.

 

[Lead Sled]

I'm not sure on this, but I believe that you need a type rating in a light helicopter if you fly it IFR. The type rating thing reminds me about an experience I had about 15 years ago while attending an AOPA sponsered CFI refresher course. One of the instructors was a recently retired FAA senior Air Carrier inspector. This guy put a copy, on the overhead projector, of the ATP certificate that he was issued during the last few years that he was with the FAA. Under limitations it read "UNRESTRICTED", in other words this guy was legal in everything. He mentioned that it came about as a result of an incident where he tried to pull some airline pilot's certificate. The inspector had been in the cockpit of some airliner when the crew did something stupid. The pilot's attorney argued that the inspector wasn't qualified to critique the crew because he wasn't type-rated in the particular aircraft that they had been flying. Long story short, he ended up with an unrestricted ATP. It also was of limited duration, l believe that it was 24 months, like a CFI certificate. He mentioned that the FAA had issued these certificates only to a handfull of their senior inspectors.

'Sled

 

[LAZYB]

I can't remember the reg or the reason...

but when I got my ATP heli I was typed in the BH-222 that was used.

 

[mattpilot]

The reason the Helicopters are listed as type ratings is because he has an ATP.

As ATP, you have to demonstrate you are able to fly IFR. Well, most of those helicopters listed are not approved for actual IFR flight. Thus the VFR restriction, since he couldn't demonstrate IFR flight in that model.

Now those ratings are only listed so he can perform in an ATP role on those helicopters.

At least thats how it got explained to me a while ago. I take no responsibility for the accuracy of that.

Now if you want to fly a helicopter in an operation that doesn't require an ATP certified pilot, you don't need typeratings - only "large" (+12.5) have type ratings. All others, even turbine, fall under the "Rotorcraft - Helicopter" rating.

 

[A Squared]

Yeah, minus type ratings, i heard Marth King and someone else has them all..didn't think john did though.

what is a list of all

airship, balloon, a&p, atp, sel mel, ifr, cfi,ii,mei, rotorwing.

is she a DE?? what am i missing??

ses, mes, glider, cfi-glider, powered lift, just to name a few

 

[FracCapt]

The reason the Helicopters are listed as type ratings is because he has an ATP.

As ATP, you have to demonstrate you are able to fly IFR. Well, most of those helicopters listed are not approved for actual IFR flight. Thus the VFR restriction, since he couldn't demonstrate IFR flight in that model.

Can you cite a FAR? Why does this not apply to airplanes?

 

[KigAir]

ses, mes, glider, cfi-glider, powered lift, just to name a few

Powered Parachute

 

[transpac]

Can you cite a FAR? Why does this not apply to airplanes?

I can't recall all the details. But, at one time helicopter pilots had to initially demonstrate IFR proficiency in each make and model of helicopter (regardless of size and weight) they wished to operate IFR. Helicopter type ratings were listed on pilot certificates in order to easily track this requirement. Don't know when the requirement was dropped, but this info probably on the internet somewhere.

 

[Spooky 1]

In the past..............the FAA issued type rating for helicopters weighing less than 12,500. they have since ceased doing this and the only type ratings today that you will see are those for helicopters in excess of that magical weight of 12,500. i.e., you will not see a Rotorcraft ATP with a MD900 helicopter type rating on it unless it was issued some time way off in the past.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Can you cite a FAR? Why does this not apply to airplanes?

In aircraft if you dont do the instrument portion, you can be restricted to VFR only. I think John travolta has a license that says somthing like ce500 vfr only.

maybe that is what he was thikning about.

 

[FracCapt]

In aircraft if you dont do the instrument portion, you can be restricted to VFR only. I think John travolta has a license that says somthing like ce500 vfr only.

maybe that is what he was thikning about.

That's different, though....that is an aircraft weighing over 12,500 and/or a turbojet. A valid comparison would be comparing the helicopters we're referring to to a Caravan or smaller Cessna.

A type rating ride is simply an instrument ride to ATP standards. You're right that if you don't do the required approaches it is limited to VFR only...or, if you don't do the required circling approach, it will have a limitation stating VMC CIRCLE ONLY.

 

[JAFI]

Maybe a FAA reference would help....

Please read the following statement, then if you wish go to the link to see the entire list of all type ratings and the "decoder" list.

The following applies to helicopters weighing 12,500 pounds or less on which type ratings are issued to holders of airline transport pilot certificates only:



The below link is the list of all type ratings from the General Aviation Operations Inspector handbook Order 8700. (The list is a little dated, there maybe a few aircraft that have type ratings but are not on the list …The last page revision was 1997.

http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/faa/8700/8700_vol2/2_009_00.pdf

Go to page 15 of 20 for the quote above


JAFI


P.S. The most type ratings on a certificte in the "OLD" pager certificates I heard in OKC was 50 type ratings. We were told that the Regresty used this certificate to plan how to print the new "credit card" style so every ones ratings would fit on one card.

 

[wmuflyguy]

That's different, though....that is an aircraft weighing over 12,500 and/or a turbojet. A valid comparison would be comparing the helicopters we're referring to to a Caravan or smaller Cessna.

A type rating ride is simply an instrument ride to ATP standards. You're right that if you don't do the required approaches it is limited to VFR only...or, if you don't do the required circling approach, it will have a limitation stating VMC CIRCLE ONLY.

ah...my bad

 

[NuGuy]

Regarding the type rating in helicopters bit:

Paraphrased from the OLD FAR 61.31(a): A type rating is required when a helicopter is used in operations requiring an airline transport pilot certificate.

Thus, if you used a Bell Jet Ranger in on-demand 135 ops, then no type rating needed. If you used it in Part 121 ops (for example), then you DID need a type rating.

It had nothing to do with demonstrating IFR proficiency in a particular type. An IFR ticket is (and was) as good in one helicopter as the other.

Under these rules, the FAA (or DE) would automatically type rate you in what ever helicopter you took your ATP ride in, and many would give a type if you took a part 135 check if you demonstrated IFR compentency.

It should be noted that you CAN take an IFR checkride in a helicopter that is not certified for IFR flight, as long as it has sufficient equipment for all the areas of operations. Unless the helicopter is certified for single pilot IFR (expensive), the examiner will act as a co-pilot. If you couldn't do all the areas of operations requred for IFR in a particluar type, then you got the VFR restriction.

I did my ATP - Heilo in a Robinson R-22. I got the type with the ATP. Probably one of the lowest grossing types out there (1370 LBS).

The FAA changed the reg some years ago to eliminate this requirement, but you get to keep your type. Same as when they instituted the 50 NM x-country rule for the ATP. Those that logged XC from one airport to the next, even if it was 5 NM apart, got to log it towards their ATP XC requirement.

Lots of rule changes over the years. I remember when you had to have 200 hours for the instrument ticket.

Nu

 

[FrustratedCFI]

Coverall type

I don't remember the exact language but I have seen a certificate that stated something like "typed in all aircraft" It was really old though. No one living