Where's My Phone Call?

[Humphry]

I don't know if it's time to get frustrated yet or not. I've been sending resumes out to alot of companies that are said to be hiring. I have way more than enough time that they require and still no phone call. What gives? Is anyone else in the same situation as I am? Is everyone telling the truth about being called for an interview? If so, why am I not? C'mon lets fess up!

 

[2LT]

What kind of flying are you doing? Where are you applying?

 

[slomo]

Sounds like my story. Been trying at this one place, even had someone walk my resume and updates in. I fly 135, have 2500 hours, 900 multi, over 100 turbine PIC but still no call. I know this guy who had his walked in a long time ago, 1000 hours and a CFI and he just got called. Looks like it's not if you know someone there, but who that someone is. It really sucks.

 

[rvsm410]

Walk-ins and direct contact

Just a warning for all of us job searchers here.

I was notified recently, or maybe a better term is "warned" to apply through HR ONLY and stop contact with employees directly. Any resumes which are not approved by HR first will be ignored and possibly hurt the chances of employment.

A new trend in the ever changing process. I will not disclose what airline told me this, but it seems to be spreading.

 

[chperplt]

A new trend in the ever changing process. I will not disclose what airline told me this, but it seems to be spreading.

In other words.... Don't have your buddies walk your resume in so I can get mine walked in and be one up on you.

 

[CatfishVT9]

In other words.......I'm a One Way and I'll let you look bad so I can look better.

 

[Humphry]

I also think that having a buddy walk in a resume is a good thing. RVSM410, would you care to disclose your source/airline that made this statement so you can back yours up?

 

[Looking4Traffic]

I was in a class of 12 at a "large regional carrier" last year. The lowest time in our class was 3500 hours, everyone had some jet experience, and everyone had someone in the company either walk their resume into HR or knew a credible, more senior employee who made a point of 'advising' HR about the worth of the candidate.

That was about a year ago but the new guys coming into the crew room are reporting similar stories. You always hear about the guy with 1000 hours who didn't know anyone -- I'm sure they must be out there but I haven't met her yet.

 

[79%N1]

I heard competitive mins for ASA were 4,000 TT - 1500 ME and 121 experience. Just what I heard.......

 

[210FR8DOG]

I believe it's possible that who the company calls for an interview just may not have any logic to it at all. If there is no gossip or politics going on that day, then HR may go to the fax machine and call a few guys who sent stuff THAT DAY. Who knows. I'm a firm NON-believer in the "who you know" theory because I got calls from 5 of the 7 airlines I applied to without knowing anyone at all. One of the ones that didn't call, Comair, I did have a 10-year Captain(and he is a very nice, respectable guy) walk my resume in, so go figure. By the way, I'm in training with Trans States. We're hiring like crazy. Send your stuff.

 

[Humphry]

Just wondering who were the others you did receive a call from?

 

[NoName]

wheres your phone call?? its going to those like b52 who paid there way to the seat, at pinnacle anyways. im sure more people would love to go there, but instead its only going to those who have thick wallets, or lots of debt.

 

[another cfii]

Pinnacle does not hire gulfstream exclusively, in each class, about 40-50%. Others are either CFIs (myself included), freight dogs or other 121 guys. You don't buy no jobs with PCL.

 

[NoName]

thats true, but explain how 700 hour pilot with no CFI are getting ahead of folks like this guy with 2500 who has obviously paid his dues, and not with a mastercard.

 

[Humphry]

I don't think that it's fair either but I guess it's every man (person, sorry girls) for themselves. Just to clarify, I have over 4400 hours and still no call. Maybe I need to do some timebuilding. Dad, can I borrow $15,000? Please!

 

[CatfishVT9]

No Name is a whiner

thats true, but explain how 700 hour pilot with no CFI are getting ahead of folks like this guy with 2500 who has obviously paid his dues, and not with a mastercard.

Wah, Wah, Wah.

You paid your dues? Right. I'm one of the guys who just got hired by Pinnacle. I guess I did pay for it. I paid with 20 years of flying from Aircraft Carriers. I paid with family separations of six months at a time.

So what did you pay? You should have spent the money on grammer lessons.

Catfish

 

[Humphry]

CATFISH, who exactly are you mad at?

 

[chperplt]

Maybe you need to redo your resume and cover letter. There might be something on it, or not on it, that doesn't attract the recruiter's attention.

 

[d.fitz]

Catfish,

No one on this board would EVER say that you did not pay your dues. You were mis-reading the group that the post was directed at.

Everyone here knows what kind of commitment you had to your job and you paid more than your fair share!

 

[Smacktard]

Catfish,

No one on this board would EVER say that you did not pay your dues. You were mis-reading the group that the post was directed at.

No, I'll say it. You accepted the job in the military knowing what the consequences were. You were paid, not very much, but you were paid nonetheless. You CHOOSE your career in the military and you sacrificed to accept a job that you felt would enhance your career. But what you are doing now is short changing the rest of us. These are two very different subjects.

You have now chosen to buy your way into the right seat of a 1900 and you tell us that you paid your dues elsewhere. What you have done by purchasing the right seat time HAS HURT US ALL. You have basically told the industry that people are desperate enough to pay for a job that should be paid for by the company. The Gulfstreams and Colgans instead of operating on the principle of paying two pilots to fly their planes, have been given carte blance to remove one crew member from their pay rolls.

That is one less position that a 135 pilot or CFI could have been getting paid to work in.

Thanks, I appreciate your efforts for selling us short. I will not forget. Perhaps soon I will be behind the table when you are interviewing with my company. Guess what, YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT BY ME IN YOUR QUEST FOR A JOB. NEVER.

The beauty of this is that if only 5% of the pilots out there feel like I do, you have just decreased your chances down the road by 5%. You've made it harder on us and yourself.

All you PFT apologists can take this to heart. I have a long career ahead of me, I'm sure I will work at many airlines. Perhaps airlines that you dream of flying for. I will work my way into interviewing, it is something that I can do to help the industry (help by black balling every PFT'er I come across). I will not give a thumbs up to an interviewee who has PFT time on their resume. It's that simple. Good luck.

S