Where is the ASA strike vote?

[JoeMerchant]

Umm, you work for me. Would you please go back and do your job? If not, please resign and let someone else do it. You don't need an invite to fullfill the duties you were elected to do.

Your MEC did not want me to participate in the process plain and simple. That is their choice as the MEC. I have no vote, but I refuse to endorse a failed game plan and the deliberate witholding of accurate information. Emotions are running things now and business decisions should never be made based on emotions.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Your MEC did not want me to participate in the process plain and simple. That is their choice as the MEC. I have no vote, but I refuse to endorse a failed game plan and the deliberate witholding of accurate information. Emotions are running things now and business decisions should never be made based on emotions.

Uh, you're the LEC 112 Secretary/treasurer. You said you were "on strike" until the MEC caved to your demands. I think that's the job he was talking about. I doubt anyone on the MEC asked you to quit your LEC position.

 

[14RF SUX]

Your MEC did not want me to participate in the process plain and simple. That is their choice as the MEC. I have no vote, but I refuse to endorse a failed game plan and the deliberate witholding of accurate information. Emotions are running things now and business decisions should never be made based on emotions.

Ummm, they work for me also, and I want you to go back to work. If they have a problem with it, they can contact me.....BECAUSE I'M THEIR EMPLOYEER.

Somehow along the way somebody got the pecking order screwed up.

So, off you go.

14RF SUX

 

[JoeMerchant]

Uh, you're the LEC 112 Secretary/treasurer. You said you were "on strike" until the MEC caved to your demands. I think that's the job he was talking about. I doubt anyone on the MEC asked you to quit your LEC position.

No, the once defiant ASA and CMR MECs have caved to political pressure from ALPA and the one time industry leading MEC relationship between ASA and CMR has been destroyed. They follow in the footsteps of ALG/PDT/PSA. I'm not on strike, I simply don't believe in ALPA anymore. If I see some new long range strategic planning, I could be convinced to change my mind. As of now I see a purely emotional suicide mission unfolding.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Your MEC did not want me to participate in the process plain and simple. That is their choice as the MEC. I have no vote, but I refuse to endorse a failed game plan and the deliberate witholding of accurate information. Emotions are running things now and business decisions should never be made based on emotions.

Is it your contention that the MEC is on record as not wanting you to particpate in LEC and fulfill the duties of the post to which you were elected by your peers?

If so I would be interested to see or hear about that. That is a accusation that needs some backing up. It is often difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff on a board like this.

You will admit that at times your are given to hyperbole and dramatics. If your claim is true....let's hear some proof.

Otherwise it is just sour grapes.

 

[atrdriver]

I simply don't believe in ALPA anymore.

Then resign your post. That's like a congressman not believing in the United States.

 

[JustaNumber]

I'm not on strike, I simply don't believe in ALPA anymore. If I see some new long range strategic planning, I could be convinced to change my mind. As of now I see a purely emotional suicide mission unfolding.

What part of "we are ALPA" do you not understand? If you don't like what the currently elected leadership is doing, then exert your influence as part of the LEC to convince the rest of the pilot group that your ideas have merit.

I don't know you personally, but your insight into the current industry problems is often right on the mark. What I don't understand is your solution. You are letting your frustration at not having your ideas always followed cause you to just give up, or even try to just sabotage the whole operation. I, as one member of ALPA, would appreciate your input as an active member of the ALPA leadership team, and am inviting you back. ALPA may not have much influence these days, but right now it's all we've got. You can either contribute to some solutions or contribute to more problems, your choice.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

If all the info you get is from ALPA without getting the companies perspective on it how can you make an informed decision?

You can't make an informed decision without hearing both sides huh? Really? Should I have listened to Hitler's side of things before I made a decision on the the holocaust? Should I listen to Iran's President before I decide with whom to side based on his statements about Israel?

On a less dramatic analogy....I've never eaten sh$t, but I do know that I don't want to try it to see.

You do not need to hear both sides to have some mythical middle ground that you are apparently searching for to appear.

 

[John Pennekamp]

I'm not on strike, I simply don't believe in ALPA anymore. If I see some new long range strategic planning, I could be convinced to change my mind. As of now I see a purely emotional suicide mission unfolding.

Then put your money where your mouth is and resign! But we know you'll weasel your way out of actually doing it.

 

[Bizjet]

No, the once defiant ASA and CMR MECs have caved to political pressure from ALPA and the one time industry leading MEC relationship between ASA and CMR has been destroyed. They follow in the footsteps of ALG/PDT/PSA. I'm not on strike, I simply don't believe in ALPA anymore. If I see some new long range strategic planning, I could be convinced to change my mind. As of now I see a purely emotional suicide mission unfolding.

You can cloak your anger for only so long. That is what has always gotten you in trouble. No one trusts you because you will damage the very Union you so much disdain. You will use any inside information (in your case misinformation) to attack the MEC so why should you be given rights no other ALPA volunteer has asked for? Explain to everyone why you have a desire to serve the pilot group and get elected to the LEC Sec/Treas. position and then refuse to do your job. Moreover, you have refused to give up the minutes and the sign in log for one of the two or three meetings you attended in part. When you can't call all the shots you turn on the other MEC/LEC members. Just because your older girlfriend has a vested interest in boosting your fragile ego doesn't mean the others doing ALPA work have time to coddle your spoiled brat behavior or tolerate your unreasonable demands.

Why would any one working for this union waste valuable time in trying to change your mind. Your rewards for being a turn coat will come from management. You don't even have to shift the blame to the union when you go over. You can just use the worn out excuses CS and LJ used.

 

[HoserASA]

Your MEC did not want me to participate in the process plain and simple. That is their choice as the MEC. I have no vote, but I refuse to endorse a failed game plan and the deliberate witholding of accurate information. Emotions are running things now and business decisions should never be made based on emotions.

John, you really need to get over your hurt feelings about Bob Arnold. He's gone now, retired, it's OK John, it really is.

Hoser

 

[Tomct]

Man, I swear JOE M. is a "Soap Opera" actor! I can't put my finger on it yet, but It will come to me!