Where did the naps go?

[IFLYASA]

So on the 200, they didn't allow hardly any nap lines to be awarded, like August. So open time comes out and there are only 2 naps in open time, period. Can the company withhold all the naps? Something smells fishy.

 

[CoATP]

Illegal after Jan 1; perhaps they are practicing to be legal.

 

[Clutch]

How are naps going to be illegal? If anything, we'll have to have more naps

 

[3GRNDWN]

I see about 15 naps in open time right now.

What I cannot see is an option to post or pick up in open time. Only option showing is "Check-in." Anyone else seeing this?

 

[IFLYASA]

Only 2 naps at 5PM.

 

[CoATP]

reduced rest will be illegal. while naps will be legal there use will be less valuable.

 

[resetjet]

I see about 15 naps in open time right now.

What I cannot see is an option to post or pick up in open time. Only option showing is "Check-in." Anyone else seeing this?

Not working for me either

 

[amcnd]

I think they will get shorter. They are also "duty" heavy, so you will be max duty monthly limited to about 14. Then you will max duty out. Also watch the 5+ leg days. That triggers a lower duty day. Any delay or flow control and it could cause problems..

 

[79%N1]

I think they will get shorter. They are also "duty" heavy, so you will be max duty monthly limited to about 14. Then you will max duty out. Also watch the 5+ leg days. That triggers a lower duty day. Any delay or flow control and it could cause problems..

Which is why there won't be 5 legs days. A four day on the 200 will look like 3-4-2-3 and 16-20 hours credit. You are no longer legal to start/legal to finish, so they will put huge buffers built into your day. Sure, this will cause a need for more pilots, but we will take big credit cuts or work more days to make the same hours.......raw deal, but hey......lots more time in ********************ty hotels!

 

[OCP]

Which is why there won't be 5 legs days. A four day on the 200 will look like 3-4-2-3 and 16-20 hours credit. You are no longer legal to start/legal to finish, so they will put huge buffers built into your day. Sure, this will cause a need for more pilots, but we will take big credit cuts or work more days to make the same hours.......raw deal, but hey......lots more time in ********************ty hotels!

Or you could move on to a job that you don't need to fly 90+ hrs just to make a living.

 

[ASApuppy]

Which is why there won't be 5 legs days. A four day on the 200 will look like 3-4-2-3 and 16-20 hours credit. You are no longer legal to start/legal to finish, so they will put huge buffers built into your day. Sure, this will cause a need for more pilots, but we will take big credit cuts or work more days to make the same hours.......raw deal, but hey......lots more time in ********************ty hotels!

yep, this is how I see it too. We fought for Min Day. Basically, we no longer wanted to zip up the monkey suit and fly to ALB and sit in the Merry Acres for 18 hrs for 45min of pay. It was mutually beneficial to have us work. With these new rules, I think there will be a big, internal, push from the company to have "Max Day". Probably 6 hrs. Then take the before 7am duty in's and their limitation on duty day and I think it will be hard to top 5 hrs per day. Transfer that to next summer and how many pilots we will have (severe shortage) and our entire pilot force will be working Min days off and their schedule will come from that last condition of PBS, Select All Pairings.

A big push now is needed in our contract language. We need more flexibility so that line holders don't continue to stress the reserves with the draconian sick call, red arrow, and low coverage, and occurrence system we have now. It's quite simple. When I am forced to work when I have other commitments, which is not that often, I call in sick. I have no choice. Then a reserve must cover 4 days rather than an afternoon.

 

[Clutch]

yep, this is how I see it too. We fought for Min Day. Basically, we no longer wanted to zip up the monkey suit and fly to ALB and sit in the Merry Acres for 18 hrs for 45min of pay. It was mutually beneficial to have us work. With these new rules, I think there will be a big, internal, push from the company to have "Max Day". Probably 6 hrs. Then take the before 7am duty in's and their limitation on duty day and I think it will be hard to top 5 hrs per day. Transfer that to next summer and how many pilots we will have (severe shortage) and our entire pilot force will be working Min days off and their schedule will come from that last condition of PBS, Select All Pairings.

A big push now is needed in our contract language. We need more flexibility so that line holders don't continue to stress the reserves with the draconian sick call, red arrow, and low coverage, and occurrence system we have now. It's quite simple. When I am forced to work when I have other commitments, which is not that often, I call in sick. I have no choice. Then a reserve must cover 4 days rather than an afternoon.

Good luck to the stupid lifers I say

 

[www.]

reduced rest will be illegal. while naps will be legal there use will be less valuable.

Boy, you really don't understand the FT/DT do you?