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OOOH, do I smell Management bull sh*t? what's the deal with management and giving them selves away so easily? Well maybe you could enlighten us as to what the future of the company is?? I mean we know what you're going to get, but what about my pilot brothers and sister who are a dime a dozen apparently to SS? If pilots don't benefit out of all of this, then no one should either. All I know is that the pilots are the ones out there doing ALL the work. I talk to my friends and they tell me that besides being pilot, baggage handlers and flight attendant, they are sometimes "dispatchers, customer service reps" and many other things, while some people just pretty much sit on their arss and plan their weekly family vacations. It makes me sick :puke:

So if your "friends" are so worried about things here why are they not on here? Why are you "speaking" for them? Just because I do not bad mouth the company that puts a paycheck in pocket it does not mean that I am involved with the "big evil management staff" that the select few complain about on here.
 
Point is, the powers that be clearly know about the "what-ifs" floating around, and they know a lot of employees are nervous aobut it. So why not say something other than "exciting news in the days ahead?" Number one rule in the military was, keep your men informed. Hearing 2nd hand that things appear not to be in panic mode isnt the same as (for example) "While details are classified to date, NBAA will allow a formal announcement for the companies future plans. We think everyone will like what they hear."
C'mon NBAA!!!
 
Point is, the powers that be clearly know about the "what-ifs" floating around, and they know a lot of employees are nervous aobut it. So why not say something other than "exciting news in the days ahead?" Number one rule in the military was, keep your men informed. Hearing 2nd hand that things appear not to be in panic mode isnt the same as (for example) "While details are classified to date, NBAA will allow a formal announcement for the companies future plans. We think everyone will like what they hear."
C'mon NBAA!!!

I have to agree with you. If someone called me and said," dude don't worry... this and that is happening, and we have these plans. I can't guarantee anything, but we are working hard at it." Then I would be a little bit more at peace
 
Point is, the powers that be clearly know about the "what-ifs" floating around, and they know a lot of employees are nervous aobut it. So why not say something other than "exciting news in the days ahead?" Number one rule in the military was, keep your men informed. Hearing 2nd hand that things appear not to be in panic mode isnt the same as (for example) "While details are classified to date, NBAA will allow a formal announcement for the companies future plans. We think everyone will like what they hear."
C'mon NBAA!!!

I certainly agree with this and with Hyper's post. The best way to encourage efficiency whether it's in fuel or cell phones is to share the information that makes the need clear. Rumors do no one any good. Nor does low morale. Smart managers know that and keep their people motivated and informed. As for putting a pilot into an awkward position of having the company card possibly refused, that is just wrong. Not to mention that line on the hotel bill that makes the pilot responsible. Expecting the company managers to give the pilots notice of changes that directly affect them is completely within reason and in no way should it be considered disloyal. Loyalty works both ways. What I'm hearing is dissatisfaction when it appears to be one-sided. I hope that things work out for the best. I have my fingers crossed for Avantair pilots :)

Offered with the empathy that was asked for,
Netjetwife
 
You know what they say...be careful what you wish for.....:p

It was easy to feel empathetic. No one likes being kept in the dark on issues that affect them so directly.
 
Have I missed a vote? Are congratulations in order? I wasn't aware that you had been elected the Spokesman for the pilots there....:rolleyes: Are you telling me that the other pilots aren't allowed a dissenting opinion?

I think all the pilots in the industry (and regionals, too) are contributing far more to their companies than they receive back. However the pilots achieve a fair/good written contract is up to them. Personally, I have my doubts that it can be done outside of a union. Feel free to prove me wrong, but last time we checked weren't the NJ pilots leading the industry in total compensation package and benefits? It's my opinion that the rest of you do the same type of job and therefore deserve the same return for your professional skills. Am I wrong?? :confused:
 
I guess you did miss the vote - you remember, the one where we received union cards and chose not to send them in (I heard 9 people did send them in). I openly welcome the opinion of our pilots I have yet to meet a pilot here who wants a union here. If we want a union we will colletively decide that based on our observations and experience and your crusade to increase your union numbers will have no bearing one it.

And who elected you spokesman for your husbands union?
 

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