What we don't see in the news

[PilotOnTheRise]

Spitfire1940, etc.;

What I mean by this is proof that the media controls what we see and view in this world is this. Basically everytime we turn the news on, all we hear is how Bush has lied about this or done this and that, the economy, etc, etc. Well, personally I do not feel the economy or any of this stuff is Bush's fault. I feel the economy was going to go down eventually anyway, regardless of who is in office.

Who cares if Bush lied about WMD. Apparently he didn't realize he was lying anyway. The CIA is up to no good, once again, from the looks. But of course, its all Bush's fault. Sadam needed to be taken out of Iraq regardless of what weapons he had, because it is not time before he would acquire those weapons.

Yes, we do hear about how the troops are out there fighting and we hear good stories about them, but that and maybe a couple other little stories and the rest is crap about Bush and everyone/thing else and how things are so bad in this world.

I happen to know that Bush is a Christian man, not just because of this story. Many refuse to accept this because of all we hear about him that is wrong! The media wouldn't dare print a story like I posted even if they had 10 reporters in the room. My point was not that the media should have and didn't report that, as much as it was simply some news I felt I should post. It was news we wouldn't hear if it weren't for people like myself posting it.

The fact is this. Many of us view our world leaders, especially Bush (our own) as lying idiots who have no business in office, blasting him for every decision that is made and blaming for everything that does not go right. I highl doubt any of us could do a better job. I also do not believe Bush is to blame for a majority of the stuff going on. If Gore was president it would be the same basically. Actually the blame on the economy should be the American people. We are the ones that actually control whether it blossoms or not.

Bush is a far better President than any in recent history, especially the one before him. I think a little respect is due and we should stop all of the non-sense criticizing of Bush.

And ... when you look at it, the media does control a lot of what and how we view the world. I guarantee people's attitudes and views of many things would be different if stories like I posted were reported on, instead of the crap that is reported on.

 

[DarnNearaJet]

Liberal media?

I seem to remember nothing but patriotic war-drum banging on CNN, MSNBC and (of course) Fox for the two months leading up to the Iraq war.

The media was intensely pro-war in the pre-war days. If I had a dollar for every shot of a reporter from the deck of a carrier or troop transport I could have retired. This, of course, is because the war made them money.

I think the trend, especially in radio, is moving toward the right wing.

 

[KickSave]

"Who cares if Bush lied about WMD. Apparently he didn't realize he was lying anyway. "


Yeah, good point. I'm sure the families of the men and women who died don't care if Bush lied about why (or if he was just midlead by his intelligence agency).

I'd bet the two men who lost their legs (at least two men, probably a lot more) or the guy who lost his hand... those guys probably don't care if Bush lied. Hey, he meant well, right?


And I KNOW for a fact that all the taxpayers of the USA don't care one bit about WHY we have a $50 BILLION bill to pay for all this... nope... who cares if he lied about why this all happened! I mean, if his CIA director just fed him some bogus report, it's an honest mistake, and he then fed it to the entire nation in a State of the Union address, thats nothing to get worked up about...


And now, I'll continue to wait for the aliens to land and take us away from all this.... Apparently some of us ARE living on a different planet than the rest of us

 

[jarhead]

"And I KNOW for a fact that all the taxpayers of the USA don't care one bit about WHY we have a $50 BILLION bill to pay for all this..."

And how did you come to "KNOW FOR A FACT". Care to share your imperical data with that statement, and how you obtained these FACTS. And you include in this sweeping statement, ALL the taxpayers. That would be 100%? When did you do this door-to-door scienticic survey?

Pure hyperbole!

 

[KickSave]

It might be hyperbole, but it's definitely sarcasm.... apparently some people didn't get it...

 

[Timebuilder]

"Well son, I hope you don't mind that we lied about why you went to Iraq, and that the threat we used as justification for putting you in harms way and getting you maimed and almost 200 of your brothers killed, wasn't really there, but hey, let me pray for you and that should make it all peachy... oh and sorry about your hand"

I like the way you can make up a quote to help you demeam a person, while failing to address the point that you are using as the reason for your post, the questioning of the reverence of George Bush. I like it because it reveals the true nature of your position: that of spoiler, one who seeks to inhibit rational discussion, cry wolf, and add confusion to the facts at hand. Without this approach, you have little to say.

There is nothing to suggest that Bush is not a reverent man, nothing to suggest that he had any knowlege of the veracity of ANY intelligence document, and nothing to suggest that Sadaam was not seeking to buy "yellow cake" for the second time since the 80's. All that we DO know is that there was an apparent problem in the US intel community about whether this information was seen as sufficiently reliable. As you know, the Brits STILL feel that their intel is correct. I'm sure these facts make no difference to you.

I am not surprised.

 

[Whirlwind]

Liberal media?

I seem to remember nothing but patriotic war-drum banging on CNN, MSNBC and (of course) Fox for the two months leading up to the Iraq war.

Yes, that is true. Leading up to the war, it became very un-PC to say anything anti-war or anti-America.

The truth is, there are some very smart people running the major media networks and they all knew from experience that this war was coming, one way or another.

So the flag waving started, if for no other reason than because the people who work at most media companies in the US are in fact patriots too. It was also good business at the time.

I will give the media credit on one thing. They may be ragging on Bush, but they are treating our soldiers as heros. This is as it should be. Our experience in Vietnam showed that attacking the soldiers themselves solves nothing. They get no say in the matter, they must obey orders, period. Don't like it? Complain to the guy who makes the decisions, not the one who carries them out.

For the record, I think the war in Iraq was a good thing, if nothing else, we freed some very oppressed people, and that is never a bad thing.

 

[spitfire1940]

Pilotontherise,

it is entirely normal that Bush and all other leaders get criticized int he press. He's the prez. This is pure SOP for the press and citizens in general. Don't take it personally.

I seem to recall Clinton taking even more heat in the "liberal" media--epecially on editorial pages from moderate and conservative pundits, and even some libs. The whole series of Whitewater, Monica, etc. certainly didn't help his image.

I work in DC in an office full of Libby Libs and they are IRATE that Bush isn't getting hit HARDER in the press. That's their perspective, of course, but they think Dubya is made of Teflon like Reagan was (until Iran-Contra brought his numbers down).

Listen, I know you like Bush, and for the record, I think he's probably a real nice guy who means well (although I wish he hadn't set the TSA loose on us).

But Bush has it easy compared to past presidents, including TRULY great ones. Go dig up a paper from the early 1860s and see what they were saying about Abe Lincoln during the Civil War.

Busting on your leader is a time-honored tradition of democracy, whether it's right or wrong, whether we like the guy or not.

Bush is a big boy and I don't think he pays a whole lot of attention to it. Not like he didn't know what he was getting himself into running for president.

 

[Whirlwind]

Busting on your leader is a time-honored tradition of democracy, whether it's right or wrong, whether we like the guy or not.

Amen!

I'm thankful we live in a country where we can print such things. If you tried that in Iraq or Iran, you'd simply be dragged outside and shot.

 

[WrightAvia]

If you tried that in Iraq or Iran, you'd simply be dragged outside and shot.

And rightfully so. Do you know how hard it is to run a dictatorship with a bunch of yah-hoos running around willy nilly, talking about you behind back. Geez...next thing you know, them monkeys will want freedom of assembly, freedom from religious persecution, freedom of the press, the right to a well regulated militia, freedom from infringement of a citizen to bear arms and whole bunch of other crazy things like that.

 

[wil]

Has anyone thought that maybe the powers that be are sitting on some of the intel( that will prove Bush's claims) to be released later this year as the 2004 Presidential bid heats up? I back Bush 100% and I don't doubt that he will play hardball with the Dems!

 

[saabtrash]

Does it always have to be about Jesus? You people are so f*cking annoying.

 

[saabtrash]

Oh yeah, don't compare Bush to Jesus either, isn't that sac-religious?

 

[jarhead]

The problem is, Wil, that right now, no one has any idea of who the democrats will have on their ticket for prez. What do they have.....9 or 10 'candidates' running, with no consensus as to who will head up the ticket. Guess the primary season next year may help 'clarify', who will be running against the GOP

 

[jarhead]

saabtrash

I guess that depends on which religion you refer to