What types will DRVSM antiquate?

[capt_zman]

Just thinking about what airplane types we see today that will be fade away into distant memories with the introduction of DRVSM. We have a CE550 and we're being quoted the better part of $200k to RVSM equip the airplane. Since the airplane is only worth 1.2m, it may not happen.

Also, will this spell the end of the beloved 20 series Lears?

 

[LR25]

I know some Sabres that will be long gone, I think the 40's will be.

Someone was saying to me that you will be able to climb through the RVSM airspace above 410 and cruise above it without being RVSM equiped, if so, will it be feasable to operate say a LR 20 series without RVSM?

RVSM, So you get more airplanes heading to the airport, then what? HOLDING on the arrival becuase the airport still cant handle the excess traffic.

What do yall think, am i wrong?

 

[Gulfstream 200]

what moron told you this info??

If the entire US is RVSM, where you gonna bring that Lear25 down? Maybe you can shoot offshore of NYC, climb up to 450, cruise all the way to offshore of LAX, descend and land.

You will then be the undisputed KING of Lear 25 "fuel management"

seriously....Im sure some outfit will come up with a reasonable price package to qualify these planes....
would hate to see such a noisy fun plane go to pasture. The smile I used to get when basting out of somewhere at 0300 was just too much!!

 

[LR25]

Yes, that is what the man was saying to me. You will be able to transition throught he RVSM airspace to and from altitude.

I got a great idea, do not convert your od 20 series Lear, and get a garanteed climb to your cruise altitude every time.

 

[rice]

OR

Get held down low, below the DRVSM altitudes and watch your endurance in the LR-20 series get reduced to about 20 minutes. Hate to be a pessimist but thats a much more likely scenario.

 

[OviedoBob]

Lear 20 RVSM

Avcon International is now flight testing a RVSM package for FAA approval for the Lear 20 series. Hope to get the STC by June 2003. Price: 149K.

 

[SabreFlyR]

I know some Sabres that will be long gone, I think the 40's will be

All the 40's won't be gone. Most of the 40A's can be made rvsm compliant,depending on which auto-pilot is in it. Sabreliner is saying approx. $150,000.

 

[Rick1128]

I believe that RVSM will be the final nail in the coffin of some of the older aircraft. The Lear 20s, Sabre 40/60, Jet Commander, Hansa, Haker 1 - 400, etc. While there are companies working on making the aircraft RVSM, there are many other items that will park the aircraft.

When the price gets too high, they will be parked. Take the Lear 20 for an example:

RVSM, programed to cost 150K. It is not yet certified. So for right now it is a crap shoot. Price? Until they get the first half dozen or so out the door, that price is fluid. And it depends on what has to be changed. Could include A/P (100K +) etc.

Engines, most experienced operators plan on an overhaul cost of 400K per engine and then they keep their fingers crossed.

Inspections, the 12 year inspection is minimum of 100K. The 12,000 hour inspection averages 200K. Langing gear inspection (12,000 landing) can be as high as 70K.

Add in the difficulty in getting parts. Insurance costs and so on, most owners will just park the older aircraft. Run them out as best they can and move on.

While a few might bring these aircraft into RVSM standards, I don't believe you will see a lot of them.