What to Study-135/cargo ground school??

[aperson]

What are some good things to study before going to ground school at places like Airnet/Ameriflight???

Thanks

 

[CaravanMan]

Well, I haven't worked for either of those two, but a good starting point would definitely be 135 regs: WX req's, alternate mins, fuel, etc. Know a lot about weather in general, be current on instrument skills, and if they give you a POH or anything about the plane, memorize that too.

 

[Boris Badenov]

The aforementioned 135 stuff, plus duty times. And again as said before, anything they send you, know it cold (flows, checklists, maneuver procedures).

 

[Lostdog65]

Be sharp on instrument skills. Be sharp on instrument skills. Be sharp on instrument. Ad nauseum.

Eric

 

[Wankel7]

I am guessing they are gonna review 61/91. Make sure you know that well so you don't have to spend time relearning and more time enjoying your training

You can browse over 135 but chances are your gonna spend time going wtf mate.

Wankel

 

[NoPax]

Don't read 135 regs unless you know which ones apply!

You'll get very frustrated, and that's what their groundschool is for.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I can't speak for others, but at AMF they send you a list of pertinent61/91/135 regs to know for the ground school in your hire packet. I wouldn't worry about it until you get on with somebody, and have them explain any confusing 135 regs and how they blend with the company's Ops Manual.

 

[BushwickBill]

I can't speak for others, but at AMF they send you a list of pertinent61/91/135 regs to know for the ground school in your hire packet. I wouldn't worry about it until you get on with somebody, and have them explain any confusing 135 regs and how they blend with the company's Ops Manual.

Dude please please please PM that list to me.

I asked this about 2 weeks ago in the training forum and was told to buck up and read the regs? What gives?

 

[Hook 'Em Horns]

At AirNet 6 years ago, they said don't worry about 135 regs before training. they will explain it all and make sense of it for you. Stick with Parts 61, 91, and the AIM. Study up on missed approch procedures from a circling approach, 5-4-20.

If you are able, do some flight training in which you enter a hold and do all the maneuvers, slow flight, stalls, steep turns, while flying the hold. AirNet will most likely do that in training at APE VOR.

 

[CaravanMan]

At AirNet 6 years ago, they said don't worry about 135 regs before training. they will explain it all and make sense of it for you.

But at the same time, study some of those mentioned in the above posts. The first 135 freight company I worked for did teach us everything we needed to know, and they're nothing huge like AirNet, etc. The second I was at did not teach us regs. And it wasn't just the fact that I had prior 135 experience as to why they didn't teach me...it didn't really matter to me, but they never taught it to the newbies either. Yikes. Like these guys are saying though, I'm sure at a big enough place like AirNet or AMF they would help you with it.

 

[TigerDriver]

I agree with the above posts about Airnet, Went through initial 3 1/2 years ago and jetride initial a year ago. the AIM is a good place to start. Don't get too worked up about all the 135 regs. Depending on where you go, you'll get op-specs and they may differ from the regs slightly.

 

[Wankel7]

We are overlooking the most important thing to study!


You want to study the girls on myspace within 10 miles of the training hotel zip code and set something up ...don't wanna be board at night now do you ?

 

[cargoflyr69]

We are overlooking the most important thing to study!
You want to study the girls on myspace within 10 miles of the training hotel zip code and set something up ...don't wanna be board at night now do you ?

While this may be true...

You really need to read your company's Ops Specs inside and out, then read the 135 regs that apply to the Ops Specs. Secondly, get to know your POH. Know the a/c systems inside and out. At many 135 carriers you are really on your own when it comes to this. Buyer beware. Knowing your Ops Specs and a/c systems will keep you out of legal trouble and alive to fly the next night. You think I'm kidding, I speak from experience!

 

[leardawg]

135? Cargo?

- 1001 creative ways to stretch the 14/10 rule by D. O. Shady and P.O.I. Inpocket..
- "Weather? What weather? We're going anyway!" by Bantam Publishing.
- Procedures for Avoidance of Embedded Thunderstorms with Inoperative Weather Radar. (AC 61-107)
- "The Popcorn Cookbook" by Orville Redenbacher.
- "U.S. Army Special Forces Manual: How To Make A Bed Out Of Anything And Get Semi-Adequate Sleep In A Hostile Environment".
- U.S.A. Guide to AM Radio Stations (to keep you awake on those all- nighters).
- "I Love The Smell Of Burnt Coffee In The Evening! (and other tales; 30 years of hauling car parts): by Freightdawg Funderburke
- "How To Re-Compute Freight Weight And Fuel Load To Ensure You Don't Exceed Limitations On Paper" AC 33-05
-"Avoiding The Ramp Check: How To Spot A Fed From A Mile Away" by Mel Clusterfook.
- "Fatigue Is Your Friend" by Gary D. Owner

 

[leardawg]

here's a couple of more that will help get you ready:

-"Gear Up! Flaps Up! Now Shut The F-UP!": How To Deal With A Captain Who Hates His Lot In Life (And you!). (Justshootmenow Press).

-"The Art Of Concealment": How to lay low in classy FBOs to avoid getting kicked out during your good at/until "rest". (2cheapforhotel Publishing).

-"Beer IS breakfast food!" (What types go good with scrambled eggs, pancakes, blueberry muffins etc.). "Highlight Your Farmers' Sunrise Special with a nice cold bottle of '06 Heineken. Just the right blend of hops with an exciting hint of skunk whiff!"

 

[EatSleepFly]

Hahaha, that is great! (And mostly true...)

 

[rubicon789]

As said before, At Airnet I wouldn't worry too much about book stuff honestly. The instructors do a great job at help you understand everything. If you study 135 FAR's your going to really confuse yourself later. Don't waste the time.

What I would do is relax and clear your head. In ground school, you'll have plenty of time to study, although it is alot of stuff. As well as an entire weekend to practice procedures in the sim before you start your training in it. If you got through the interview, study hard and take it seriously and you should be fine. I won't say it's easy b/c it's not by any means, but it does prepare you to deal with the real world of freight flying. Hope this helps.