What to say to ATC?

[wingnutt]

ok man, if you want to go down this road, i can play too...

1. You each need to go back to the ORIGINAL post and my reply post on this thread and read each word very slowly and carefully.

...i did, and as a matter of fact, your post had little (if anything) to do with the original question. he was simply asking if replying back with your tail number was appropriate, as hes been hearing that on the local frequencies. you are the one who went off on the tangent about daring to say "cleared to go" instead of "cleared for takeoff", which is the whole reason i responded to you in the first place. but yet you still seem to misunderstand that, so who really is having the comprehension issues here?.

2. Show me and quote me ANYTHING in my original post where I refer to ANYTHING other than "Cleared to go" being lame and unprofessional... which it is.

...again, it is now you that cant seem to read, as that is exactly what i was referring to.

3. Show me and quote me where I said anything other than emphasizing professionalism and standardization. Give me any OTHER example I have made on this thread regarding all these little brevity items (that you both seem to fantasize in your minds), that I "SUPPOSEDLY" object too. Hint... there are NONE..

...who said you did?

4. As further evidence of Detroitpilots inability to communicate effectively, you insinuate that I must not fly into "high density" airports. I have stated my credentials... which you must not understand... so please explain how I am flying a 757/767 for a Major airline into anything but "high density" airports.

...again, not my quote.

Again... both of you two folks (Wingnutt and Detroitpilot) are examples of the reason we can't just say "Cleared to go". Your inability to understand and transmit on this media forum alone, raises questions about you both and your ability to perform on the radio.

...hmmm thats funny because dosent the AIM say something to the effect of "The single most important thought in communications is understanding. It is essential that pilots acknowledge each communication with callsign. Brevity is important...and since concise phraseology may not always be adequate, use whatever words necessary to get your point across.

These are things that will get yourselves or other people hurt.
Hence.... my comments numerous here..

...that or the fact that someone bruised your ego

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

The tower does NOT clear you 'to go', he restates the runway, issues a heading if needed or other instructions, and states 'Cleared for takeoff'. Period. The appropriate and correct response would be acknowledge the takeoff 'clearance' and any departure instructions along with either the tail number or callsign. Short, sweet, CORRECT, and Professional. Anything else can lead to confusion and something unfortunate. (Tenerife) Another one is the runway crossing. The tower does NOT "Clear" you to cross ANY runway, they will NEVER say "XYZ, clear to cross 27R, join Lima, contract gnd .75" NEVER. The only time you hear the word CLEAR is in a landing clearance or takeoff clearance. They issue crossing instructions. "XYZ, cross 27R, join Lima, contract gnd .75" This is because of Tenerife. So the correct, professional response would be along the lines of "Cross 27R join lima gnd .75 and your callsign or tail #. So if you respond with "Ok, XYZ clear to cross 27R" or even just "clear to cross" with no ID, you are increasing greatly the chances of someone thinking they were given a "takeoff" clearance and doing just that. In ATL when they are combined on the single frequency for both runways it is a very real possibility, along with many others that have international flights.