What to do about a bad examiner?

[FlyingToIST]

I recently started to work on instrument rating with this guy that he got a 'free ride' on his private pilots checkride. I mean this guy is so bad that he cannot tell me what a radial is and he constantly gets lost when his MFD is turned off.
Turns out this guy got his private from the FBO that is owned by his buddy and the owner has an examiner on staff. He was trying to get his instrument rating in 10 days, but he doesn't even meet the requirements of Private PTS.

Now this guy is going to go to the original examiner because he doesn't want to do his instrument check ride with someone else. I am concerned that he will have another 'sure, com'on over' reception.

How can I prevent this guy getting a free instrument rating which i am sure will be a death wish in clouds and terrain? (we have a lot of them here)
I tried to talk to the examiner but he wouldn't return my calls at all.

 

[SSDD]

Don't sign him off!

 

[wannabe22]

You could go to the local FSDO and talk to an examiner.

WB22

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Report this operation to the FSDO and don't sign him off. What dangerous pilot he sounds like.

 

[FlyingToIST]

I have no intentions of signing this guy off, but I am more concerned about the examiner. If he is going to give favors to the buddies of the owner, i think he doesn't deserve to be an examiner at the first place.

 

[gsrcrsx68]

Step 1...Stop taking his money and tell him the same stuff you are posting here...anything less than that makes YOU a POS (not saying you are, unless you plan to keep taking his money with your attitude).

Step 2...Anything else you feel like.

 

[SEVEN]

Obviously don't sign him off.

-talk to the FSDO or call 800-FLY-SAFE....you don't have to give your name.

 

[JediNein]

It could be your guy had a good day on the checkride. The FAA is going to ask that question.

FSDO doesn't do much, especially if the examiner is politically corrected. If you don't already have a friend at the FSDO, find out the FAAST Team Manager (used to be Safety Program Manager) for your area and talk to him/her.

If that doesn't work, get ahold of the National Examiner Standardization Board. The Board doesn't care if the guy fails people he doesn't like -- even if they should have passed, but they do care if he passes people that should not have passed. They ~might~ take action.

If you remain anonymous, the FAA won't take action, not even through the 800 number.

If you write a letter and sign it, be prepared for the examiner to sue you. The case is usually dismissed with a SLAP motion, but, it will still cause angst. However, you'll be able to sleep at night, even after someone signed off by that examiner crashes and kills themselves, their family members, and some innocent people on the ground.

Keep yourself safe. Don't sign off the pilot, or even train him further unless you get to choose the examiner. That way, when the FAA calls after the pilot violates yet another reg causing an enforcement action, you'll be in the clear.

 

[jimpilot]

It could be your guy had a good day on the checkride. The FAA is going to ask that question.

FSDO doesn't do much, especially if the examiner is politically corrected. If you don't already have a friend at the FSDO, find out the FAAST Team Manager (used to be Safety Program Manager) for your area and talk to him/her.

If that doesn't work, get ahold of the National Examiner Standardization Board. The Board doesn't care if the guy fails people he doesn't like -- even if they should have passed, but they do care if he passes people that should not have passed. They ~might~ take action.

If you remain anonymous, the FAA won't take action, not even through the 800 number.

If you write a letter and sign it, be prepared for the examiner to sue you. The case is usually dismissed with a SLAP motion, but, it will still cause angst. However, you'll be able to sleep at night, even after someone signed off by that examiner crashes and kills themselves, their family members, and some innocent people on the ground.

Keep yourself safe. Don't sign off the pilot, or even train him further unless you get to choose the examiner. That way, when the FAA calls after the pilot violates yet another reg causing an enforcement action, you'll be in the clear.

Good Advise

 

[SSDD]

Some of this advise is a little extreme. Do you know for sure this examiner has a history of doing this? Is this an isolated incident? What kind of reputation does this examiner have among the instructors? Do you have prove that there is a pattern of "giving away" checkrides?

If you don't already know, I'd do a little research before goding to the FSDO, or a standardization board. Remember, your reputation is on the line too.