What the.....Paul Foley at Mesa!!!

[A19]

Once again I do realize what he's saying. It's a bit of a touchy subject with people who were at Mesaba during that time. I just hope from a corporate point of view, that Phil Trenary doesn't have the same "extreme success". Good Luck

 

[WMUSIGPI]

From a corporate point of view what he did at Mesaba was an extreme success.

Really? Maybe you should ask the MAIR shareholders what they think of what happened from 2003-2008.... My guess is they want their money back.

 

[PCL_128]

Really? Maybe you should ask the MAIR shareholders what they think of what happened from 2003-2008.... My guess is they want their money back.

You seem to be under the false impression that the corporati actually care about the shareholders. The shareholders are just barely above us on the ladder of priorities for these scumbags. All that matters is themselves, and maybe a few of their scumbag corporate buddies. If the shareholders get screwed, so be it, as long as they still get their bonuses and golden parachutes. "Mission accomplished!"

 

[Poahi]

Part of the problem is there is a disconnect between the shareholders and the BOD. In Mesa's case, the Board is stacked with members loyal to the CEO and will support him regardless of the impact it has on the stock. When legislation passes which prevents this from happening, you won't be seeing the kinds of deals now that reward behavior which betrays the interests of the owners of the company.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Exactly.. Under the true definition of a corporation the shareholders are the owners and the ones that should be the priority. Much like the whole "of the people by the people for the people" that the US government SHOULD be operating as, but obviously no longer does.... Corporations have largely managed to pull the power from those that had and should have it to line the pockets of a select few that weaseled their way to the top of the corporate ladder, much like certain familys have done in government......(on both sides of the "aisle")
Unfortunately it's an inevitable part of human nature to take all the power that can be taken. And the end result will be just as it has been throughout history. A revolution or a conquering. Perhaps someday humanity will finally learn from history instead of repeating it........

 

[Slick]

SAY IT!!!!!!

The suspense is killin' me.

 

[PCL_128]

When legislation passes which prevents this from happening, you won't be seeing the kinds of deals now that reward behavior which betrays the interests of the owners of the company.

If you want that kind of legislation, then you're voting for the wrong party.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

He's Mesa's new "exit" strategy!

 

[Poahi]

If you want that kind of legislation, then you're voting for the wrong party.

I'm not crazy about either party. Did you see the pork in the 'bailout' bill that passed? Every Congress person is for sale. The only question is price.

 

[PCL_128]

I'm not crazy about either party. Did you see the pork in the 'bailout' bill that passed? Every Congress person is for sale. The only question is price.

True, but the question is which candidate (and party) sells out to which interests. My party sells out to my interests. The other party to sells out to the interests of big business. Since you aren't big business, I think it's obvious where your vote should go.

 

[Poahi]

He's Mesa's new "exit" strategy!

Careful what you wish for. This stage is being set up much like XJ's. And history was not kind to the pilots. If the Association had its act together, there would be classes on reorganization plans and 1113(c) hearings.

On the other side of bankruptcy, Mesa will no longer resemble what it is today, even if the current leadership remains. It will be small, lean, hungry and after the same business it set up for during the last boom cycle. Nothing changes. Airlines are like shooting stars that never fly very high in the first place.

 

[Metro752]

Mesa, the bell tolls for thee.

 

[Poahi]

True, but the question is which candidate (and party) sells out to which interests. My party sells out to my interests. The other party to sells out to the interests of big business. Since you aren't big business, I think it's obvious where your vote should go.

Right now I would vote for the first candidate to put out a balanced budget amendment and one that would keep bills focused on a single subject.

This bill includes money for bikeways, cotton gin tax exemptions, liquor sales taxes, wodden arrow nonesense, fingerprint registries, and other %^&*( that amounts to another 100 Billion. No one should complain about pork and spending if they support this bill. I'd rather see the financial markets collapse that my kids living on their knees for 50 years.

Shame on Congress. Sometimes, it's not the right thing to do any any cost.

 

[USCtrojan]

You seem to be under the false impression that the corporati actually care about the shareholders. The shareholders are just barely above us on the ladder of priorities for these scumbags. All that matters is themselves, and maybe a few of their scumbag corporate buddies. If the shareholders get screwed, so be it, as long as they still get their bonuses and golden parachutes. "Mission accomplished!"

Pinnacle Moron,

I've read through your dribble long enough and sat silent about it. I realize you're all about working for free as long as it helps you and screws anybody else, but I digress.

NAME ONE GOV'T ENTITY THAT RUNS EFFICIENTLY AND WELL. JUST ONE PLEASE. For example, how would you say Fed Ex and UPS run comparably to the Post Office? The Post Office has tax payers money and seemingly endless money. The Post Office is by far and wide the WORST at providing the same service as Fed Ex and UPS. Fed Ex and UPS run well because they are held accountable from a STOCKHOLDER STANDPOINT. Who is held accountable at the Post Office? Or any other Gov't entity. The Gov't doesn't run anything well--nothing, because they are not held accountable, period. That's the difference. Fed Ex, UPS and all the private companies out there cost the TAX PAYER NOTHING--until the Gov't gets involved. GOVERNMENT SPENDING POLICY--you seen this gem? YOU SPEND MORE TO GET MORE. Name one Private company out there that could survive with that business tactic? The Gov't SUCKS at running anything, which is why they need to stick to policing laws and protecting borders period.

Trojan

 

[USCtrojan]

Right now I would vote for the first candidate to put out a balanced budget amendment and one that would keep bills focused on a single subject.

This bill includes money for bikeways, cotton gin tax exemptions, liquor sales taxes, wodden arrow nonesense, fingerprint registries, and other %^&*( that amounts to another 100 Billion. No one should complain about pork and spending if they support this bill. I'd rather see the financial markets collapse that my kids living on their knees for 50 years.

Shame on Congress. Sometimes, it's not the right thing to do any any cost.

Couldn't agree more with this statement.

Trojan

 

[CWUalum]

We could all go on and on about which party is better and which candidate we should vote for, but back to the topic at hand...

What Foley did to us at Mesaba and to Big Sky is a shame. He should be someone's b!tch in an 8X8 cell. I left Mesaba two years ago and the only sticker that I couldn't bring myself to remove was my "What does Paul Foley do?" sticker. I do get a lot of questions walking through the Portland and Seattle airport about who he is and I am never lost for words.

Beware Mesa boys and girls, and if you can find someone with a stock of Foley stickers, I think you should invest in some.

 

[mozzer]

SAY IT!!!!!!

The suspense is killin' me.

Ok. Mesa Sucks.

 

[Slick]

Ok. Mesa Sucks.

Daa-amn! Thank you! That took three pages. Have we lost focus?

 

[TheJCNIs]

You thought working at Mesa was bad, get ready for hell under Foley. He was nothing but a train wreck at Mesaba. Good luck and get out!

 

[captain dad]

My sympathy to the Mesa people.

Foley is a blood sucker.

Good Luck.