What is my flight time?

[Clear-&aMillion]

I have about 25 hours in my logbook, all dual received in a PA28.

What is this time really? I heard someone say you can't log SIC time if the plane doesn't require 2 pilots. So if it's not SIC time what is it?

Can I say I have 25 TT???

 

[WIPilot]

Yep that is 25 TT.

It is total time only really. Other than when you solo, You wont start to log pic time until after you get your private and you probably wont log sic time, like you said, unless you fly in an ac that requires 2 crew members.

 

[tracearabians]

Passenger !

 

[Amish RakeFight]

your time before sol is considered dual received and counts towards your total time. When you fly solo before obtaining your private, you will log this as PIC time.

Once you're a Pirvate pilot, you can ride along as a safety pilot and log SIC time. If previously arranged, you could be the acting PIC on such a flight, and the pilot under the hood can log PIC as sole manipulator. This way both of you can log the coveted PIC.

 

[Skyboy722]

your time before sol is considered dual received and counts towards your total time. When you fly solo before obtaining your private, you will log this as PIC time. quote]

Actually, I don't think that's right. It's been a while and I'm not an instructor, but I don't believe you can log PIC until you have your private. Before that, it's just considered either solo or dual received. You can't log PIC until you are rated in the airplane, and before your checkride you fly solo on an endorsement from your instructor. But they are both TT.

 

[gkrangers]

Who the heck is PIC when you solo if you aren't?

 

[machaf]

You log PIC when you are solo and working on your private. . (61.55 (E)(4)).

 

[Skyboy722]

Who the heck is PIC when you solo if you aren't?

Well, you need your instructor's blessing every time you go fly. Of course once in the air you are ACTING as pic, but you can't LOG pic because you are not rated in the airplane. (you don't have a certificate) Until you can grab your buddies and go fly whenever you want, I don't think you can log pic. until your checkride you are operating under your instructor's CFI certificate and the endorsement he/she signed for you.

Like I said, It's been a very long time and I may well be wrong, but that's the way I remember it...FWIW

 

[siucavflight]

your time before sol is considered dual received and counts towards your total time. When you fly solo before obtaining your private, you will log this as PIC time.

Once you're a Pirvate pilot, you can ride along as a safety pilot and log SIC time. If previously arranged, you could be the acting PIC on such a flight, and the pilot under the hood can log PIC as sole manipulator. This way both of you can log the coveted PIC.

You do not log SIC while acting as safety pilot. SIC is only when you are flying a plane that either requires two pilots, or the companies operating specs call for two pilots.

Safety pilot is PIC.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

You log PIC when you are solo and working on your private. . (61.55 (E)(4)).

What does

§ 61.55 Second-in-command qualifications.


(e) A person may receive a second-in-command pilot type rating for the type of aircraft after satisfactorily completing an approved second-in-command training program, proficiency check, or competency check under subpart K of part 91, part 121, part 125, or part 135, as appropriate, in that type of aircraft provided the training was completed within the 12 calendar months before the month of application for the SIC pilot type rating. The person must comply with the following application and pilot certification procedures:


(4) The applicant must complete and sign an Airman Certificate and/or Rating Application, FAA Form 8710–1, and present the application to an FAA Flight Standards District Office or to an Examiner or to an authorized Aircrew Program Designee.

have to do with logging PIC when you are a student pilot on a solo flight?

See 61.51 (e)(4)

(4) A student pilot may log pilot-in-command time only when the student pilot—
(i) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft or is performing the duties of pilot of command of an airship requiring more than one pilot flight crewmember;
(ii) Has a current solo flight endorsement as required under §61.87 of this part; and
(iii) Is undergoing training for a pilot certificate or rating.