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G2T said:
Why is that? Did you get some kind of 250 below 10 exemption?
Yea, Toby doesn't realize that speed just means the company can make more money off his ass for the same pay.

If I had to fly a faster plane, I'd have to work a 20 day month instead of the 12 day month I work now.
 
Hvy said:
Having flown both, I can tell you your "good friend" was mistaken.

Hmm, I have flown both and I would have to agree with his "good friend".

74 is more complex yes........but for stick and rudder skills, the tail dragger wins everytime! Anybody with decent skills can fly a whale with the training. You want to see a high time airline guy humble himself...put him in a cub on a breezy day!

I flew a whale last week.....been a couple of years since draggin a tailwheel, so I count myself in the "Humble" catagory!:nuts:
 
FN FAL said:
Yea, Toby doesn't realize that speed just means the company can make more money off his ass for the same pay.

If I had to fly a faster plane, I'd have to work a 20 day month instead of the 12 day month I work now.
You fly FedEx feed in the van right? You have a lot of time and experience, why don't you move on to some place like Mesa to fly a jet? :p
 
P-3 a 4-eng turbo prop was faster than a DC-9 and DA-20 jets below 10,000', it had a red Line of 407 Kts, early B models would fly right through Vne at cruise power. DC-9 and DA-20 are limited to 350 max at any altitude P-3 most awesome turbo prop ever built
 
gkrangers said:
You fly FedEx feed in the van right? You have a lot of time and experience, why don't you move on to some place like Mesa to fly a jet? :p
Hahaha! Just what I need, another syndrome.
 
Man, im with you. An RJ guy says that to you......give me a break. If i was flying for a 121 regional right now like skywest or horizon.....id be asking for the EMB or the DAsh. Ive seen these jet drivers operate, ive flown a 650......give me a break....Wow FL410 at .82 in a smooth ride with an airplane that does it all for you or FL230 dodging WX, going into tight little airports at high DA's.....I love props, they are more fun. Screw the 500F.O. who has the balls to say something like that....real airplane? A jet now a days is an expansive computerized transportation system. A turboprop is an airplane. Especially single pilot winter iciing ops.....FUN FUN FUN. as long as you keep it safe.
 
damn well said on your round engines versus turbines. I couldn't agree more. You got me laughing, its a tough thing to do!!! Happy flying!
MK
 
Wow, this if a fun read.

I have flown both as well, piston singles and twins, turbo props, single engine jets, fighters, and 747-400's.
ALL have there very unique qualities.
Flying a twin piston down to mins at an uncontrolled airfeild, flying a EA-6B through the valleys of the Cascade mountain range at 500KTS, or doing an approach in a 744 into HKG with bad weather and exactly 1.36 Million heavies around you. It's all about preference. None is easier or harder then the other, they are all different.

What do I personally like? Jets. Why?

1. Less noise. All the power is produced well aft of you. The quietest airplane I have ever flown was the F-18.

2. Less thinking. No prop controls, no cowl flaps, no mixture, only throttle.

3. More THRUST. Thrust can be LIFE. Plus lateral G's are fun.

4. If you are flying a jet it usually means you are making more money. Sometimes not justified, but true.

People that think flying a 744 from here to there is easy have another think coming. It is a very complex machine with more systems then a human body and more mass then Queen Latifia. Going around in a 744 compared to a 172 is like comparing monks to sunday school kids. IT AIN'T EASY.

Is flying a jet the end all beat all? I dunno, depends who you are. I think flying a beaver float plane would be a blast, hovering over a ski hill in the Alps dropping off extreme snowboarders would have a high coolness factor, doing submarine hunting in a P-3 at 200AGL would produce some seat pad dissappearing acts, and gliding from ridges to thermals would be eye watering.

To each his own, but don't EVER bust on a guy because his one all, end all wish is to fly jets. It may be the thing that truly makes him/her have a holy experience.
 
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Having flown pistons, turboprops and jets I have come to only one inescapable conclusion: they are all airplanes.
 
life is good

Here's my take.
I've flown an Airbus-300, been a Naval Aviator, Skydiver etc...Kinda been there, done that kind thing.
I currently fly a Lear 35 & King Air 90 and have no complaints.
I'm always amused at the looks/smirks of those who fly the heavy metal aircraft. For instance when I commercial to/from Flight Safety I like to say hi to the pilots, if I can, and when they ask what I fly and I say I just finished recurrent for the King Air 90. OH! as they look down their nose.
Well I don't need their approval, just as you don't. I LIKE what I do and get paid adequately for it.
Another thing I find amussing is when the hiring people need MORE of something, i.e.
All that Recip time is good but 500 hrs. in a jet is what we're looking for.
Well flying a prop is HARDER than a jet, especially in the descent.
My take, A good pilot is a good pilot NO MATTER WHAT PLANE THEY FLY!
A good recip pilot can be trained to fly a 777, a lousy jet pilot can't be trained to fly a recip!
Enjoy your job for YOU, let others worry about themselves.
 
First question should be.....how much does it pay....then flying a what.
 
wrong 727 guy, the P-3 could fly circles around the Bear, the Bear's only advantage was hi alt cruise speed and range at hi alt. But for a big airplane the P-3 was responsive and a blash to drive around down low, like 200 AGL on CWS.
 
Face it: a turboprop is just an "unducted fan".
Seems we all agree: fly what you like, and let's toast to more great flying....
 

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